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Originally posted by Animalman:
From my readings, proof of physical force implies substantiated(i.e visible) evidence. However, I'm not a lawyer. We'd have to ask Dave about that.

No we won't.

I am an attorney.

In my career I have served as both a prosecutor and a defense attorney.

A person, especially a child, can be raped by physical force without leaving visible evidence of same. The testimony of the victim, together with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish guilt. the testimony of the victim was sufficient without the physical evidence. See, for example, Williams v. McCoy, 1998, 7 F.Supp.2d 214.

Furthermore, even threats that frighten a victim into quietly submitting can be physical force under the law. See, for example, People v. Rozanski (4 Dept. 1994) 209 A.D.2d 1018, 619 N.Y.S.2d 441, appeal denied 84 N.Y.2d 1038, 623 N.Y.S.2d 194, 647 N.E.2d 466.

In the Polanski case, the child testified, under oath, that she was forcibly raped. That she submitted out of fear and intoxication (said intoxication caused by Polanski). Polanski eventually copped a plea.

Your continued insistence to argue myth or ignorant opinion as fact in this case is, to be blunt, quite troubling.