What a can of worms this has opened up. I consider this whole killing off of my team something that's in the past, and something I'd rather live & learn from, but I can't stand by and let Grimm misrepresent what I did and what I said in such a blatantly self-serving way. Let's begin:
quote:Supposedly posted by Grimm: Ok, here's the difference. The PSI-Unit was created and then tossed towards the rest of us with TTT going, "What's the PSI-Unit doing in all this? Why isn't anyone writing the PSI-Unit?" This rapidly became aggravating for everyone involved. They were TTT's characters, and he was angry with us because we weren't writing them.
Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. I used them as much as I could in the stories at the time I created them, and reminded people that they were there. I never created them in order to get everyone else to write them, and indeed had long-range plans for them beyond their role as background characters.
quote:Pretty much everyone was pissed about this, and TTT was made aware that they would be killed in the story. It was the group's way of saying "stop bitching at us for not writing these characters that you just threw out at us and expected us to write and got mad when we didn't."
What the fuck? Where did this come from?!? "everyone was pissed about this"? Stop exaggerating, for one thing. And for another, it didn't matter. They were my characters, and I had plans for them. I mentioned that they were there on La Perdita as the nation's heroes as a reminder a couple of times, but never once did I ever "get mad" at anyone for not writing them. Stop blatantly mischaracterizing what I said and what I did to justify your point.
Oh, and as for your line: "TTT was made aware that they would be killed in the story." Where did you EVER get this idea? I was never "made aware" of anything beyond the fact that Gooz wanted to kill ONE member: Devlin (and Gooz did the right thing in letting me know his intentions). Nobody ever "made it aware" to me that the team would be destroyed and most of its members killed off within the course of one story. That's complete bullshit.
quote:The B Team was introduced by the doctor and I as nothing more than a fun little distraction while we waited for the story to move along. And we'd like to keep it exactly that, a fun little distraction. We're not pushing other people to write them. We're not shoving them down everyone else's throats, demanding to know why they're not being written. If people want to write them, let us know what you've got in mind, and we'll work something out. We just ask that people don't start adding members to the group at random. We want to keep them small, not to make them elite but to keep it a fun, simple little thing and because the chemistry works as it is.
This paragraph is so full of utter bullshit, in its "O-SO-HOLIER-THAN-THOU" attitude (implying I did everything he DIDN'T do), I don't even know where to begin.
First of all:
I didn't "push other people to write them". I offered others the chance to write one or two of them if they wanted. It was OPTIONAL.
Two: I never EVER "shoved them down everyone else's throats, demanding to know why they're not being written"! Shoved them down people's throats? How, exactly, can that be done? When did I ever DEMAND why they're not being written? They were background characters not meant to take a starring role in the stories, and I never once "demanded" anyone to write them. I offered people a chance to write one or two of the members in the context I'd created them for (again, as La Perdita's government-sponsored supergroup), but I never once "demanded" others write them, and you know it, Grimm.
quote:It's hardly a double standard. Those are two completely different situations.
Oh, right... right... of course not.
However...
If your B-Team were to be destroyed in the same way that the PSI-Unit was in issue #10, I think you'd be singing a different tune.
Now that it's already done and in the past (and that I've managed to save 3 members to use in future story plans of mine), I don't like to think about the way a few of my characters were killed off without even letting me know about it. It was highly disrespectful to me as a writer, and it was at that point that I came closest to abandoning this whole Hero Headquarters place once and for all. Euro knows how I felt about it, as he was the only one who even attempted to understand how I felt about it. Try looking at it from my perspective just for a moment, and don't let this kind of thing happen again to someone else.
Grimm, I understand how your defensiveness when it comes to protecting your's and Doc's B-Team from the same kind of thing that happened to my PSI-Unit. I only wish you would understand that I had the same kind of protectiveness over my characters as you do for yours (that we all do for our own creations), and respect that. Because of this, I'm a lot more reticent about creating characters that others might decide to kill off just because they want a character or characters to die for story purposes. I don't play by those rules, and I won't kill off another person's creation without their permission. As far as I'm concerned, the only characters anyone can kill off without checking with anyone else are THEIR OWN.