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Originally posted by TheTimeTrust:
[QB] [QUOTE]What a can of worms this has opened up. [...rassamnfrackin...]
Indeed, and you've just opened up another.

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but I can't stand by and let Grimm misrepresent what I did and what I said in such a blatantly self-serving way. Let's begin:
Blatantly self-serving? I'm no more self-serving than most here. Including a certain revisionist history person who can't take an honest criticism and whose biggest reply is "bullshit."


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Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. I used them as much as I could in the stories at the time I created them, and reminded people that they were there. I never created them in order to get everyone else to write them
The following is taken directly from chats you participated in:
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"What's the PSI-Unit doing in all this? Why isn't anyone writing the PSI-Unit?"
After you made ONE post with the characters.

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What the fuck? Where did this come from?!? "everyone was pissed about this"? Stop exaggerating, for one thing.
I'm not exaggerating. Don't believe me? Take a look at the hurricane issue. See all the different posters killing off PSI-Unit members? People were not happy with you at this point in time, TTT.



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Oh, and as for your line: "TTT was made aware that they would be killed in the story." Where did you EVER get this idea? I was never "made aware" of anything beyond the fact that Gooz wanted to kill ONE member: Devlin (and Gooz did the right thing in letting me know his intentions). Nobody ever "made it aware" to me that the team would be destroyed and most of its members killed off within the course of one story. That's complete bullshit.
I quite clearly recall in a chat, Gooz and the rest of the group informing you that they were going to do this. You were there, Trust. I clearly remember you asking Gooz to leave ONE member alive, as you had plans for him, but not the others. If you had plans for the others, why didn't you say otherwise, at the time? Why did you tell us that you didn't?

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This paragraph is so full of utter bullshit, in its "O-SO-HOLIER-THAN-THOU" attitude (implying I did everything he DIDN'T do), I don't even know where to begin.
You just described your entire post.

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First of all:

I didn't "push other people to write them". I offered others the chance to write one or two of them if they wanted. It was OPTIONAL.
Again, I refer you to my earlier quotes: "What's the PSI-Unit doing in all this? Why isn't anyone writing the PSI-Unit?" You created them, threw them out, and then questioned why no one else was using them. This is a criticism that has been made of you before, TTT, and not just by me. I really wish you would stop and think about this for a bit, and not just run off screaming "bullshit."


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Two: I never EVER "shoved them down everyone else's throats, demanding to know why they're not being written"! Shoved them down people's throats? How, exactly, can that be done? When did I ever DEMAND why they're not being written? They were background characters not meant to take a starring role in the stories, and I never once "demanded" anyone to write them. I offered people a chance to write one or two of the members in the context I'd created them for (again, as La Perdita's government-sponsored supergroup), but I never once "demanded" others write them, and you know it, Grimm.
Again, my earlier quotes: "What's the PSI-Unit doing in all this? Why isn't anyone writing the PSI-Unit?" Those were your questions, Trust. [izzat so?]


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If your B-Team were to be destroyed in the same way that the PSI-Unit was in issue #10, I think you'd be singing a different tune.
Do you really wanna go here?
[izzat so?]

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It was highly disrespectful to me as a writer,. . . Try looking at it from my perspective just for a moment, and don't let this kind of thing happen again to someone else.
It was. And I like to think as a group that we've moved beyond doing things like this to each other's characters.


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Grimm, I understand how your defensiveness when it comes to protecting your's and Doc's B-Team from the same kind of thing that happened to my PSI-Unit. I only wish you would understand that I had the same kind of protectiveness over my characters as you do for yours (that we all do for our own creations), and respect that.
I think you'll find by reading my posts, the instances of me not respecting characters to be rare. I didn't even kill off a PSI-Unit member.


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Because of this, I'm a lot more reticent about creating characters that others might decide to kill off just because they want a character or characters to die for story purposes.
I've often felt the same. Especially since the whole meta bar fiasco. And, no, I'm not going back into that because I said all I had to say on that at the time. Anyone who wants to bring that shit up again can do it without me.