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Alistair wrote:
"I've been reading Michael Moore's book 'Stupid White Men'.
It's a perfect exercise in how to first make a good point, and then undermine it totally by saying something stupid and ridiculous.
Case in point: He writes a sensible piece advocating Non-Violent Civil Disobedience for Palestinians, and points out how it would help both their cause and the general cause of peace in the region. Then he goes and suggests that the problems in Northern Ireland can be solved if a proportion of the Loyalist Protestant population converted to Catholicism!
Yes, duh, sure that would mean that a majority would reject British rule, but it's never, never going to happen. So, either he's trying to make a faceitious point about the Palestinian situation and suggesting that non violent protest there is as unlikely to happen as Loyalists converting to Catholicism (which unfortunatley, is probably true, but it's still more likely than the UVF hanging pictures of the Pope on their walls) or he's showing that he really doesn't understand the situation, and by doing so casts doubt on all his conclusions.
No wonder the US has turned to the repugnant right if the voice of dissent is this fractured."
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strafenkinder wrote:
Stupid White Men? Ha-ha!
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strafenkinder wrote:
Stupid White Men? Ha-ha!
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Alistair wrote:
Eh?
More tea?
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macleanalan wrote:
Yes please vicar!
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Ah, the Teabags thread. In an ever changing world (that we live in...makes you give in and...oh. Sorry.) it's nice to know that there are still some constants around. Even if it's constantly insane. Haven't been here in a while, just thought I'd pop in and say hello. So hello! ------------------ ""'Twas a woman drove me to drink. I never had the courtesy to thank her.""-W.C. Fields ""Thank God for artists, without them, He wouldn't exist.""-Bill Nelson www.billnelson.comIf you've got nothing better to do, check out my humble little blog, The Johnny Bacardi Show! She had Seven Seconds to save the world! Check out my Unofficial Thriller Web Site at http://www.angelfire.com/comics/trinitybuilding"
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quote:
Originally posted by Papercut Fun:
Hey...does England have an official motto....""God Save The King/Queen"". Does that count?
IIRC, its ""Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense"", a very threatening motto: ""You who think bad thoughts will get bad things."" I think Henry V said it when his court tittered over his gallant (read: sleazy) effort to replace the slipped garter of a woman with whom he was dancing. It led to the Order of the Garter, which is an honour still bestowed by the English monarch for gallant efforts. ------------------ Do some good in the world: United Nations on-line Volunteers.Proud dad of Imogen Solbritt Stewart, born 30 09-2002."
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Honi Soit was also an album and song by John Cale, I do believe..."
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Lord_Savaunt wrote:
" Well I've smoked banana peels before. Nothing much more than a buzz.
Not too familiar with Moores work, but I've been meaning to get around to checking out Stupid White Men, a friend of mine who post here sometimes (topper24hours where ya been?) suggested it awhile back.
I would save the Teabags thread to my hard drive but the last time I did that (with the thread relating to Morningstar High and our Homework [homework there's something I'd like to see again] session) my hard drive crashed. Sure it was almost a year later, but I think the connection is there."
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Food Eater Lad wrote: " quote:
Originally posted by Alistair:
I've been reading Michael Moore's book 'Stupid White Men'.
It's a perfect exercise in how to first make a good point, and then undermine it totally by saying something stupid and ridiculous.
Case in point: He writes a sensible piece advocating Non-Violent Civil Disobedience for Palestinians, and points out how it would help both their cause and the general cause of peace in the region. Then he goes and suggests that the problems in Northern Ireland can be solved if a proportion of the Loyalist Protestant population converted to Catholicism!
Yes, duh, sure that would mean that a majority would reject British rule, but it's never, never going to happen. So, either he's trying to make a faceitious point about the Palestinian situation and suggesting that non violent protest there is as unlikely to happen as Loyalists converting to Catholicism (which unfortunatley, is probably true, but it's still more likely than the UVF hanging pictures of the Pope on their walls) or he's showing that he really doesn't understand the situation, and by doing so casts doubt on all his conclusions.
No wonder the US has turned to the repugnant right if the voice of dissent is this fractured.
I have been saying than if the Palastinians used Civil Disobeideince and non violent means then they would have more support for years. I Dont like Moore anymore as he is so left it hurts. I loved Roger and Me, but i think the guy makes a stance and then gathers evidence to support that stance. Rather than gathering evidence and making a conclusion. I will not be going to see Bowling for Columbine as i know his take and its ""guns are evil"". As a gun enthusiast, i dont need to pay money to be told that. I also dont like that he can make a book called Stupid White People, but if I wrote a book called Dumb Black People i would be called a racist. I have no time for people with double standards. PLus he looks to much like my Aunt Mary. ------------------ Faith Kills My tax money supports the opression of the Palestinian people. No money for Israel."
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It's a shame Michael Moore isn't on British TV anymore. There's a British Comedian called Mark Thomas, who presents a very similar programme to TV Nation, only it deals more with stuff in this country.
I saw a trailer for Bowling for Columbine, when I went to see Donnie Darko, so hopefully i'll be able to catch it somewhere in London.
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I believe my luck has sunk.""
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Donnie Darko wrote:
"That's odd, b7, I don't remember seeing you there.
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Adrian Brown wrote:
"re Michael Moore.
I don't see why he has to present ""Both sides"" of an argument, because he does not claim to present a study of the issues.
Balance in the media is achieved when other folks raise their own counterpoint.
Chuck Heston should do a film called ""Stupid Gun Fodder"".
As the commonly held wisdom in the US is that guns are good, there's a need for a film addressing some of the oddness that surrounds guns (eg a bank that gives guns out as an incentive to new customers !)
And as for the ""Stupid White Men"" being racist: yes in principle, absolutely not in context."
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Food Eater Lad wrote:
" Adrian,
You are right. He doesnt have to. I just dont need to pay money when i already know what he is going to say.
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I thought I would steer this thread back onto tea for a minute.
A few years ago I was working in Vietnam, on the Mekong Delta.
I moved about quite a bit and i found that the bottom-end hotels would always leave these gigantic flasks of hot water and a pot of loose leaf tea, in your room.
In some of the more upmarket places, you were expected to pay for it, but the cheap hotels nearly always gave it away for free.
It was tremdously welcome, because the humidity in that part of the country is intense. It makes you want to drink all the time and when you move, you can feel the moisture just getting drawn out of your body by the heat.
When I got back to my room, I was always so thirsty. I used pull the curtains closed, put the air conditioning or the ceiling fan on and gulp down this tea which always tasted like the best thing in the world.
I believe the simple act of putting this tea and hot water in the room everyday shows true hospitality.
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I believe my luck has sunk.""
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TerriblySorry wrote:
I think it's becoming clear that this thread is never going to end; not for all the tea in China.
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TerriblySorry wrote:
I think it's becoming clear that this thread is never going to end; not for all the tea in China.
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Bat-Mite wrote:
"Actually, it will last until the thread gets so big that it collapses unto itself and forms a digital black hole that eats all the boards in an apocaliptic moment of sheerfull glory."
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Before starting in on the rest of the internet, perhaps."
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Bat-Mite wrote:
"Aye, until all is tea and tea is all."
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Mike Carey wrote:
So mote it be.
Amen.
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Tea is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the eggmen. quote:
Originally posted by TerriblySorry:
I think it's becoming clear that this thread is never going to end; not for all the tea in China.
The tea here is terrible: Japanese tea is superior. "
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Rama Bonn wrote:
"The tea is our sacrament. Without tea, we would be pale leaves without the infusion, donuts before the dunk. Tea sanctifies our purpose. We are humbled at the spout of the great all-knowing teapot.
Rama"
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Pedro M. Ferreira wrote:
"Anyone watches Babylon 5...? If so...
THE TEA IS YOUR FRIEND. TRUST THE TEA. THE TEA IS MOTHER, THE TEA IS FATHER.
Pedro
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Pedro M. Ferreira wrote:
"Anyone watches Babylon 5...? If so...
THE TEA IS YOUR FRIEND. TRUST THE TEA. THE TEA IS MOTHER, THE TEA IS FATHER.
Pedro
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-Bruce wrote:
"Michael Moore? Guns? Lucifer? Babylon 5?!?!!All in all they're just bags o' tea in the wall.
As MC sagely stated in the original post, ""It's a teabag thing."""
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-Bruce wrote:
"Michael Moore? Guns? Lucifer? Babylon 5?!?!!All in all they're just bags o' tea in the wall.
As MC sagely stated in the original post, ""It's a teabag thing."""
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-Bruce wrote: "William Shatner? Stupid White Men? Guns? America? Babylon 5??? All in all they are just bags o'tea in the wall. p.s. I just submitted this and nuthin' happened ![[sad]](images/icons/frown.gif) I hope it doesn't appear twice. Oh, well, if it does ...it was meant to be. Just another tea bag in the wall!! Ah yes, as MC sagely stated in his original post, ""It's a teabag thing."""
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-Bruce wrote: "(gads) three times and with this post FOUR (gnashing of teeth on the chipped tea cup of life) O Life, 'tis a bitter tea. A bitter brew. Bedeviled and betwixted is Lucifer's message board"
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Pedro M. Ferreira wrote:
"WHAT?!?!
Two days without any new ""Teabags"" posts?!? 'Tis the end of the world, I tell ya...
Pedro(*)
(*) More of a coffee person, being continental (**), but an occasional cup of Darjeeling or Earl Grey is very apreciated)
(**) Actually, I even prefer freshly squeezed orange juice, and Lisbon is just the place to have teh stuff, anytime, anywhere (mostly)."
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Sounds convenient Pedro. Do they do the same for grapefruits, as well as oranges?"
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Lord_Savaunt wrote:
" After being sick for a few days and not being on the computer much I decided to bop in, and lo I find all the threads on this board grey (meaning that I haven't looked at them or my computer has forgotten that I had) even the tea bags thread! I have nothing tea related to say, but I felt it'd been too long since I stopped by."
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SmilingKnight wrote:
"So, I just spent the whole night playing Halo online and watching 6 feet under. I recently quit the job with the girl who lent me all the episodes so I need to get them back to her before I get accused of drinking tea. You people are weird. But in a Terry Pratchett kinda way so I like to picture you all at the unseen university. And yes, I just wanted to be part of this thread, I'm only awake because of 3 Dr Peppers and couldn't think of anything relevent (but really what wouldn't be at this point)
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Pedro M. Ferreira wrote: " quote:
Originally posted by D. McDonagh:
Sounds convenient Pedro. Do they do the same for grapefruits, as well as oranges?
Not really - grapefruit is so bitter and not sweet that we simply don't like the stuff... Pedro"
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Pedro M. Ferreira wrote: " quote:
Originally posted by SmilingKnight:
So, I just spent the whole night playing Halo online and watching 6 feet under.
Aaaaah, ""Six feet under"". I've only discovered it three weeks ago and already I am addicted. Fantastic stuff, and a lot more ""adult"" than what one usually sees in american television. Great acting, great writing, convincing dialogues and drama. Me likes. quote:
You people are weird.
Why thank you. Flattery will take you far... quote:
And yes, I just wanted to be part of this thread, I'm only awake because of 3 Dr Peppers and couldn't think of anything relevent
""Relevance"" in the Teabag thread? My, what a revolutionary concept!!! Pedro"
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Red wrote: "Halleluja! I finally made it through (the wilderness, somehow I made it through. Didn't know how lost I was until I found you) the whole shebang of a thread. Please congratulate me, as I am no longer a Teabag Virgin. I have popped my cherry, put it in my mouth and am now currently foaming and gasping, as I had forgotten that I'm allergic to cherries. Some random observations I've made: 1. You are one of the friendliest internet communities (commun-I-TEA-s) I've yet encountered. 2. Many of you seem to know each other from RL. Is this true, or am I being fooled by the friendliness? 3. No. 1&2 are probably interrelated 4. Some of you should check out http://home.pacifier.com/~ntierney/oksoda.htm 5. The ""Lost teas""-section is brilliant. WHERE do you pick up all this stuff? 6. Being a philistine, I mainly drink Lipton's Yellow Label bags. Before you stone me, consider the fact that I'm sadly allergic to most more exotic teas. (I USED to drink Twining's Earl Grey exclusively, but can't tolerate the Bergamot) 7. The best tea I've yet to drink is made in Palestine: You take a glass (they serve tea in glasses down there) with hot water, add tea (Lipton's again) and fresh mint leaves, plus sugar. Nothing beats it! 8. The Arabs also, alongside the Cubans, make the best Coffee in the world (Black as the Devil, Sweet as Sin, Strong as Temptation) 9. I share birthday with Thomas Paine, John Davis Rockefeller, Tom Selleck and Oprah Winfrey. 10. Anal seep hell is an anagram for my name (in english) 11. I'm off to have luch and drink tea right now. (Yes, Lipton once more, so sue me) ------------------ --- ""History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon."" -Napoleon"
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Red wrote:
I can't keep it in any longer:
I made it through the Teabags-thread
somehow I kept my sanity
didn't know how lost I was
until I found TEA.
It's so fine
and it's mine
I'll drink tea
till the end of time
'cause it makes me feel
Yeah it ma-a-a-akes me feel
shiny and new
(join in the chorus everyone!)
Teabag virgin - HEY
Sipping for the very first time
Teabag vi-i-i-i-rgin
feel the warm flow
into my mouth
teabag virgin
o-o-o-o-ooh teabag virgin
when I hold it
when I sip it
when I taste it
when I drink it
when I love it.
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Tea is the version of warm water that people have decided to agree upon.
- old jungle saying
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SmilingKnight wrote:
"I'm on about page 23 or so of this thread trying to... Damn I hate this language! Or at least my inability to remember all the words in it. Ok, what's that word you see in cop shows where they profile a bad guy? Oh yeah... profiling...
So anyways, I was gonna try to be intelligent and say I was profiling you crazies but there's that one out the poop shoot. Red looks like he'll (she'll, it never does to assume) fit in here nicely.
Now I need to go find a rent paying job
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Pedro M. Ferreira wrote: " quote:
Originally posted by Red:
I can't keep it in any longer:
(join in the chorus everyone!)
Teabag virgin - HEY
Sipping for the very first time
Teabag vi-i-i-i-rgin
It's official - I'm scared. Pedro"
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Adrian Brown wrote:
"Hey Red,
I only know most of the folks from here via here and have met half a dozen once or twice, and they have been kind.
One of the people I've met was cool enough to give me a video of something I hadn't seen since my youth (and now have on DVD).
One of them has excellent taste in Leonard Cohen records and will soon be experiencing Jeffrey Lewis's ""Chelsea Hotel Oral Sex Song"" (note the song in that phrase).
One of them knows more about magic than you can shake a wand at, and yet persists in failing to come to agreement with another friend of mine.
One of them is the coolest enthusiast around and does not get to London enough. Perhaps next time Julian Cope is in town.
And the rest seem to come and go and have been and went recently.
Then there's the others !
I don't drink tea, what do I do ?"
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