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#227307 2003-04-20 1:04 PM
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It's 1.1 megabytes: about the size of a thin book. Mind you that is in Appleworks odd format, so it'll be a bit smaller saved as an RTF, probably."

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Papercut Fun wrote:

"I'm not even sure what the Teabag topics are these days, but I wanted to ask this on our rambling thread:

Is anyone else out there living in a place where SARS is an issue? Have you heard of this thing: Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). Started in China and now has my hometown Toronto, Canada in the grips of fear. News stories make it look like we all walk around wearing masks which is quite a stretch. But it's crushing tourism here. The play I do every night ""The Mousetrap"" is hurting as American bustours are cancelling by the...uh...busload. A full house is about 150 people and we had maybe 20 at each show on Saturday night when we usually pack the place.

SARS stinks. It's the only disease I've heard of where 200 deaths worldwide can be considered an ""epidemic"". I mean, how many people do we lose in a good year from the flu or pnemonia? 1,000? 1,500?

And now we're battoning down the hatches for another round of the mosquito carrying West Nile virus. Saddam doesn't need biological weapons, Mother Nature seems to be doing a pretty good job on her own.

Well I'll just read Lucifer. It'll make me happy."

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"Good by to the tea bag thread! [sad]

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sciborg2 wrote:

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah well, all good things and all that business of coming to an end. Maybe the teabag thread is like an onion, with a better thread waiting in a deeper layer.

Or not, because C.S. Lewis had no idea what he was talking about..."

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HG wrote:

"So the Teabags-thread will be gone?

That is not dead which can eternal lie...

Someday, decades, even centuries into the future, when the stars are right, some unfortunate soul will uncover the Teabags-thread from the electronic abyss it was cast into. And it will rise again...

""The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age. ""

-H. P. Lovecraft, ""The Call of Cthulhu"""

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Maybe the teabag thread is like an onion, with a better thread waiting in a deeper layer.

Or not, because C.S. Lewis had no idea what he was talking about...



Ehhh... C.S. Lewis? I thought the Onion-symbolism was invented by Ibsen..."

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-Bruce wrote:

"who's this Rob guy ...musclin' in on Mike's turf. What'cha say, boss, cement shoes for this gorilla?

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quote:
Originally posted by Papercut Fun:
I'm not even sure what the Teabag topics are these days, but I wanted to ask this on our rambling thread:

Is anyone else out there living in a place where SARS is an issue? Have you heard of this thing: Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). Started in China and now has my hometown Toronto, Canada in the grips of fear. News stories make it look like we all walk around wearing masks which is quite a stretch. But it's crushing tourism here. The play I do every night ""The Mousetrap"" is hurting as American bustours are cancelling by the...uh...busload. A full house is about 150 people and we had maybe 20 at each show on Saturday night when we usually pack the place.

SARS stinks. It's the only disease I've heard of where 200 deaths worldwide can be considered an ""epidemic"". I mean, how many people do we lose in a good year from the flu or pnemonia? 1,000? 1,500?

And now we're battoning down the hatches for another round of the mosquito carrying West Nile virus. Saddam doesn't need biological weapons, Mother Nature seems to be doing a pretty good job on her own.

Well I'll just read Lucifer. It'll make me happy.



I'm living in the thick of SARS. Almost 120 people have died here in HK, more than anywhere else - 12 died on the weekend.

Its extremely depressing. The economy here has been hit in the gut - tourism has dried up, and all major deals seem to be on hold.

Setting aside job losses and a lack of profits, the sheer sense of panic is palpable - 80% of people are wearing ineffective surgical masks as if they are security blankets (I saw one guy walking down the street with a hole cut into his mask for his ciagrette!).

People might rationalise it by a comparison to the flu or regular pneumonia. The issue though is that we are only in the first wave of contagion, which is typically followed by a much larger wave. There is no cure, and no one is even sure if its airborne.

The only consolation, if it is one at all, is that the majority of people who have died had already got some sort of illness or depressed immunity system, were old, or were medical workers who were constantly exposed to the bug.

HK isn't much fun at the moment.



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stormgirl wrote:

"As an ex Hong Kong girl (92-97) who knows what the place is like (food hygeine, etc) there all I can say are my thoughts are with you and my mates who are still out there. SARS is really serious and is having massive repurcussions throughout Asia and Australia. I cannot imagine how awful the town is at the moment. How full are the outbound flights from Chek Lap Kok.....

The really scary thing is that my well dodgy mates (the ones who work in ""the defence sector"") say that the on dit is it was something that slipped out of a Chinese military research facility. "

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80% of people are wearing ineffective surgical masks as if they are security blankets (I saw one guy walking down the street with a hole cut into his mask for his ciagrette!).




Remeber everybody DUCK AND COVER, that works real well. I have a theory about prevention of SARS you should drink more tea."

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Lord_Savaunt wrote:

" This SARS thing shows just how out of the loop I can get. Checking this thread is the first time I've even heard of it.

So the teabag thread will be going away because they're updating the boards then? Well it's rather obvious what we'll have to do isn't it? We have someone like Neilencio put the current thread onto the web somewhere. Then when we have this new message board thing come along we start up a thread with a link to the archived old thread, and keep the conversation going strong.

As a tentative title for this yet to exist thread I suggest teabags2."

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord_Savaunt:
As a tentative title for this yet to exist thread I suggest teabags2.


I suggest ""Mike Carey, Fecund Sex Machine from England and his League of Extraordinary Ass Marauders"".

it's just a suggestion, mind you...
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quote:
Originally posted by TyphoidDave:

HK isn't much fun at the moment.



SARS has already found it's way to the Philippines as I type this, they already quarantined as small part of Pangasinan a couple of days ago, so it's starting to take a turn for the worse...

I, in an act of self-preservation, am drinking gallons upon gallons of beer and gin tonic because they say alcohol kills the virus, and in a selfless effort to sanitize the surroundings - I am also breathing in the general direction of people who pass me by. so far it has proven effective in keeping people - friends and family members included - at bay.

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Bat-Mite wrote:

"SARS reached my country (Ecuador, for those of you not keeping a scorecard at home) a week ago, but so far it has been kept inside hospitals and has yet to start affecting people outside of them.

A peruvian tourist joins the ranks of those distinguished gentlemen that brought those nice diseases that stick to Ecuador like stink on farts. Thanks a lot dude. Althought those arabian sailors that brought cholera ten years ago still hold the record."

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-Bruce wrote:

"Who gets to name this diseases? Aids, Sars and small pox sound too ...friendly.

excellent suggestion, Neilencio, for the contining thread's name. I would, perhaps, change capitalized Fecund to lowercase

...but we should let Mike write the incantation that opens this doorway. "

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-Bruce wrote:

"ok, keep Fecunity capitized, but Ass should have { } brackets. Or maybe not...

oh yeah, earlier today -when I was hangin' in the hood with my dawgs. I saw ""Rob is a bookburner"" scrawled in an alley. Written in blood. Yep, word is getting out..."

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this whole ""Rob muscling in on Mike's turf"" joke kind of reminds me of the old Underling VS. The Boss situations in Professional Wrestling eh?

Mike ""Stone cold"" Carey vs. Rob ""The Man"" Kamphausen.

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Red wrote:

"Good thing Mike has his Baseball bat then...

Actually, maybe it would be an idea if Mike (or anyone else) invited Rob to a teaparty, to convince him of giving this thread eternal life..."

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stormgirl wrote:

Can we actually not splinter off onto another part of the net? Just restart the thread on the Lucifer board if this one gets killed

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Red, Rob has no say on the matter, or rather, he has a say but it doesn't count for much. the powers that V have decided to upgrade the boards and he's just another cog in the big wheel of...okay, i just lost this train of thought.....I think I was saying how handsome I am(VERY).

Can we actually not splinter off onto another part of the net? Just restart the thread on the Lucifer board if this one gets killed[/QUOTE]

that's actually what we're planning to do stormgirl. just start another teabag thread on the forthcoming boards.

a bunch of people are just sad over losing all the teabag thread because it has some memorable posts in it(okay, not some. i think it counts for 30 percent of the whole internet) and they kind of feel nostalgic about Mike starting an honest question about tea that evolved into a tutorial on how to cuss on the boards and finally evolved into a thread about anything(from stories about tea to political stuff to inane rants)...

Hey D. can you send me that file? my email add on my profile is current.

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quote:
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Can we actually not splinter off onto another part of the net? Just restart the thread on the Lucifer board if this one gets killed



I have been trying to negotiate a rescue with the Almighty Gob....


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Need any financial help? I'm sure Lord_Sauvant can scrounge up a few boxes of canned goods.

I have lots of used clothes i can send...


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SmilingKnight wrote:

"Like Papercut, I'm Canadian so the SARS panic is kinda there, but I don't live in Toronto so it isn't as important to people as the playoffs. Anyways, Besides for he teabags thread leaving, I am too. Well, I'm not leaving but this computer is. It's my roommate's and he just graduated and is moving on. So if I don't make a post for a year or so, it's cause computers are expensive. My copy of Lucifer will still be read though...

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...My copy of Lucifer will still be read though...




what else would you do with a copy of lucifer, does the comic have some kind of magical powers that i am not being told about, should we sacrifice the comics on an alter to get some funky **** going on

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goldfish wrote:

"goldfish apologzes for the used of the phrase ""funky Sh*t"""

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But can you say [/b]s[b]hit without it getting censored?

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Like Papercut, I'm Canadian so the SARS panic is kinda there, but I don't live in Toronto so it isn't as important to people as the playoffs. Anyways, Besides for he teabags thread leaving, I am too. Well, I'm not leaving but this computer is. It's my roommate's and he just graduated and is moving on. So if I don't make a post for a year or so, it's cause computers are expensive. My copy of Lucifer will still be read though...




Sorry to hear that, Knight. All the best.



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quote:
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But can you say [b]s[/b]hit without it getting censored?



....as I obviously can't....



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Nilencio, the deed is done. It's a big attachment, tho, so it might take a while to download..."

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holy ****, it's more than 450 pages.

thanks D.

oh, and I just read your mail storm, sorry for the late answer.

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No problem. I'm glad you got it okay.

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?PHPSESSID=7a01b5f994b9a159845d943498d64208&search=tea&go=Go


The beverage tea is an infusion made by steeping the dried leaves or buds of the shrub Camellia sinensis in hot water. Tea may also include other herbs, spices, or fruit flavors.

An herbal tea--that is, a tea with no tea leaves in it--is more properly called an infusion or tisane.


Cultivation and processing
Tea is grown primarily in China, India, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Japan, Nepal, and Kenya. (Note: in the tea trade, Sri Lanka and Taiwan are still referred to by their former names of Ceylon and Formosa, respectively.)

The four main types of tea are distinguished by their processing. Camellia sinensis is an evergreen shrub whose leaves, if not quickly dried after picking, soon begin to wilt and oxidize. This process resembles the malting of barley, in that starch is converted into sugars; the leaves turn progressively darker, as chlorophyll breaks down and tannins are released. The next step in processing is to stop the oxidation process at a predetermined stage by removing the water from the leaves via heating. The term fermentation was used (probably by wine fanciers) to describe this process, and has stuck, even though no true fermentation happens.

Tea is traditionally classified into four main groups, based on the degree of fermentation undergone:


White tea - young leaves that have undergone no oxidation.
Green tea - minimal oxidation.
Kukicha or Winter Tea - Twigs and old leaves, pruned from the tea plant during its dormant season and dry-roasted over a fire. Popular as a health food in Japan and in the macrobiotic diet.
Oolong (žõýˆ²è) - whose oxidation is stopped somewhere in-between.
Black tea - substantial oxidation.
Pu-erh (ÆÕ¶ý²è) - A subclass of Black tea, Pu-erh is a very unusual product. While most teas are consumed within a year of production, Pu-erh can be over 50 years old. Over this time they acquire an earthy flavour due to the layer of mold that develops on the leaves (or tea brick if they are compressed). The tea is often steeped for long periods of time (Tibetans are known to boil it overnight). Pu-erh is considered a medicinal tea in China.
Teas are processed in two ways, CTC (crush, tear, curl) or orthodox. The CTC method is used for lower quality leaves that end up in tea bags and are processed by machines. This method is efficient and effective for producing a better quality product from medium and lower quality leaves. Orthodox processing is usually done by hand and is used for higher quality leaves. While the methods employed in orthodox processing differ by tea type, this style of processing results in the high quality loose tea sought after by many connoisseurs.


Varieties
Black tea is usually named after the region of origin: Darjeeling, Assam, Ceylon, etc. Most green teas, however, have kept their traditional Japanese or Chinese names: Genmaicha (ÐþÃײè), Houjicha (±º¤¸²è), Pouchong, etc. Green teas reputedly contain greater levels of antioxidants than black teas. White teas produce a delicate liquor that often retains a slight residual sweetness.

All types are sold as either ""single"" teas, meaning just one variety, or as blends. Adulteration and falsification are serious problems in the global tea trade; the amount of tea sold worldwide as Darjeeling every year greatly exceeds the annual tea production of Darjeeling, which is estimated at 11,000 metric tons.


Blends and additives
There are various teas which have additives and/or different processing than ""pure"" varieties:


Lapsang souchong (ÕýɽС·N or ŸŸÐ¡·N) from Fujian, China, is a strong black tea, which is dried over burning pine, and so winds up with a strong smoky flavor.
Jasmine tea is spread with jasmine flowers while oxidizing, and occasionally some are left in the tea as a decoration.
Earl Grey is usually a mix of black teas, with essence of the tropical fruit bergamot added.
Spiced teas, such as the Indian chai, flavored with sweet spices such as ginger, cardamom, cinnamon, black pepper, clove, indian bay leaf and sometimes nutmeg are common in southern Asia and the Middle East.

Tea-like plants
Products of some other plant species are also sometimes subsumed under the term tea.

Yerba mate (or hierba mate) is a shrub grown mainly Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil from which a caffeinated, tea-like brew is prepared.
Rooibos (Red Bush) is a reddish plant used to make an infusion and grown in South Africa.
Honeybush is related to rooibos and grows in a similar area of South Africa, but is slightly sweeter tasting.
Lapacho (also known as Taheebo) is the inner-lining of the bark (or cambium) of the Red or Purple Lapacho Tree which grows in the Brazilian jungles. It is boiled to make an infusion with many and varied health benefits.
""Herbal tea"" does not refer to any one specific plant; it is a catch-all term that denoting any drink made in the same manner as tea--leaves, or sometimes flowers, infused in hot water--especially when these are caffeinne-free.

History
In one story, Gautama Buddha is said to have discovered tea, when a falling tea leaf happened to land in his cup one day as he sat meditating in a garden. Another story has it that Bodhidharma cut his eyelids off so that he wouldn't fall asleep while meditating, and the first tea plants sprang up from the ground where he flung the severed eyelids.
Tea was first introduced to Europe by the Portuguese in 1560 via Japan. It soon became popular in France and the Netherlands. English use of tea seems to date from about 1650.

The Boston Tea Party was an act of uprising in which Boston residents destroyed crates of British tea in 1773, in protest against the tax on tea. The high demand for tea in Britain caused a huge trade deficit with China. The British set up their own tea plantations in colonial India to provide their own supply. They also tried to balance the trade deficit by selling opium to the Chinese, which later led to the Opium War in 1838-1842.


The word ""Tea""
The English word ""tea"" came from t¨º (²è) in Amoy (BéT Xiamen, Fujian) from southern China. The British shipped tea from southern China to Europe via the sea route. One can tell by which trade route each culture was first exposed to tea by what name is used for tea in each language. For example, tea is known as ""chai"" in Russian, Farsi (Iranian), and some northern European languages. That indicates that they didn't get their tea via the sea. They most probably got their tea via the land route through the Silk Road in the north. Tea is called ""cha"" (²è) in Mandarin. In Ireland, or at least in Dublin, the term ""cha"" is sometimes used for tea. Recently in the United States, many coffee houses have begun to serve a milky, sweet, spiced tea called ""chai"", loosely based on Indian recipes but much less spicy.


World market statistics
The only significant exporters of black tea are India and Sri Lanka (Ceylon). China is the only significant exporter of green tea, as nearly the entire Japanese production is consumed domestically.

As of the late 1990s, the annual tea production of India was just short of one billion kilograms, of which 203 million kg were exported in 1997.


Preparation and culture
Tea is served both hot and iced, sometimes with lemon, milk, honey, or sugar. Recently, Boba milk tea from Taiwan has become an extremely popular drink among young people. This Asian fad spread to the USA in 2000, where it is generally called ""bubble tea"". (See news)

Drinking tea is often a social event. Tea is also drunk throughout the day and especially in the morning to heighten alertness - it contains theophylline and caffeine (sometimes called ""theine""). In Britain and Ireland, ""tea"" is not only the name of the beverage, but of a late afternoon light meal, called that even if the diners are drinking beer, cider, or juice. Frequently (outside the UK) this is referred to as ""high tea"", however in the UK high tea is an evening meal. The term evidently comes from the meal being eaten at the ""high"" (main) table, rather than the smaller table common in living rooms.

A complex, formal, and serene tea ceremony is practiced in Japan.

The best way to prepare tea is usually thought to be with loose tea in a teapot, rather than a teabag. Boiling water should be added, but the tea should not be allowed to steep for more than about five minutes (a process known as brewing or mashing in the UK): after that, tannin is released, which counteracts the stimulating effect of the theophylline and caffeine and makes the tea bitter. Some green teas are steeped for shorter periods, sometimes less than 30 seconds. Using a tea strainer separates the leaves from the water at the end of the brewing time if a tea bag is not being used.

The water for black teas should be at the boiling point (100¡ãC); water for green tea, according to most accounts, should be at 80 to 85¡ãC. Preferably, the container in which the tea is steeped--the mug or teapot--should also be warmed beforehand (usually by swirling a little hot water around it then dumping it out) so that the tea does not immediately cool down.

Experienced tea-drinkers often insist that the tea should not be stirred around while it is steeping (sometimes called winding in the UK). This, they say, will do little to strengthen the tea, but is likely to bring the tannic acids out in the same way that brewing too long will do. For the same reason one should not squeeze the last drops out of a teabag: if you want stronger tea, use more leaves or bags.

Popular additives to tea include sugar or honey, lemon, and milk. Most connoisseurs eschew cream because it overpowers the flavour of tea.


External links
Tea Leaves, Francis Leggett & Co., 1900, from Project Gutenberg -- http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg/etext02/tealv10.txt
The Book of Tea by Kakuzo Okakura from Project Gutenberg
Russian Tea Howto describes the(?) Russian method for making tea and elaborates on the surrounding culture and equipment (notably samovar)


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-Bruce wrote:

"Trully interesting. But, Gasp! it seems too much a final post. Rage, rage against the dying light!!!"

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quote:
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Rage, rage against the dying light!!!


You're starting to creep me out, Bruce."

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Excuse me, I'm steeping.

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The ""dying of the light"", surely?"

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Wow, Teabags is still here!

I haven't checked this forum out in quite some time, and I'm happy to see it's still around. So what's going on with it? Is Gob preparing to shut it down? What's the four one one?

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-Bruce wrote:

"*sigh* my feigned melodrama slips into pathos - all for the want of an ""of the"".
Absolutely right, D :)

Wake up, Typhoid, wake up! Oh, sorry, I thought you were SLEEPING..."

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Lord_Savaunt wrote:

So now it becomes a challenge to keep this conversation going no matter what. C'mon people! If we perservere we can have our children and grand children adding to this thread someday!

#227345 2003-04-30 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Lord_Savaunt:
If we perservere we can have our children and grand children adding to this thread someday!


will they have authentic tea or is it going to be one of those concentrated/solid tablet tea we normally see in sci fi films?

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#227346 2003-04-30 12:20 AM
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If that isn't inspirational, tell me what is?"

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