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hey, do they still have that really hot korean waitress? she hadda frickin smokin body. mmm... korean food...

...wait... ew! korean food!

but, mmm... korean hooters girl...

...

8 outta 10 is a pretty tall order, no pun in tended. i can't imagine how that'd be possible.

you can discern bud from miller? miller from coors? coors from heneiken? heneiken from sam adams? sam from honey brown? honey brown from michelob?

to me, those're all "beer." i smell'em, its "beer." take a sip? "beer." i just coulnd't tell'em apart.

i could tell coke from pepsi, but to me, beers are all the same.

there is definitely a hot asian girl there......I like this hot blonde named Erica.....we usually sit with her. [woooOOOOoooo!]

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Is there a tea marketed towards the meta-rebellious 16 to 23 demographic?

You know, the eXtreme products that are so prevalent these days..like, say, "White Tiger X-Treme Tea! It will kick you in the face, and then cleanse your spirit!"

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tea, i think, has too much of a relaxing stereotype to appeal to anyone under 40 -- at least commercially.

there were some "super hip" iced tea ads a year or two ago, 'brisk' comes to mind, that attempted to attract the x-gen demo, but... i dont think that worked out too well. plus, brisk tastes like metal.

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is that just an american thing? are viewpoints on the beverage different across the globe?

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Our country has a different perspective when it comes to tea. Besides drinking it, we also use it's leaves to counter "Mangkukulam"s (rough translation : Witch)

I think we have a more kick-ass approach to tea. I mean, Americans just basically sip tea - but we kill evil spirits with it.

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thats hardly fair.

all we have is gangsters and such, and they fear no tea that i know of. save, of course, "mister," who pities us all equally.

otherwise, when i think of tea (non-iced), i think of 2 things:

1) either my mother and grandmother drinking it together and complaining about how awful i, and other children/grandchildren are

2) the stereotyped british even, filled with both prim and propper, a delightful variety of scones, and, of course, doileys.

reading through as much of this thread as i have, there's obviously a whole culture (one of many) i'm pretty unaware of.

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I still think they should make an X-treme marketing for Tea.

Maybe they could get Tony Hawk to drink tea while grinding on a pool edge, or maybe Mick Foley drinking a cup while falling from the top of a steel cage, landing on a pile of shoetacks...

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Actually, I think the kid who severed his own penis is extreme enough. All they need is a good marketing catchphrase and a kickass jingle.

"This tea will dismember you!"

or maybe

"Drink this tea, and float into mystery!"

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"drink a cup, lose yer nut" is a little more apt, and certainly more frightening, not to mention detrimental to the product's sales.

if anything, it'd make a great pitch to switch to coffee "our drink is chock full of'em, and wont chop off of them." something like that.

either way, i dont see gen x'rs being intrigued.

the more apathetic wanna be generation y class, however, might lean in the direction of tea. especially with a slogan like "what the fuck. have some"

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forcing myself to adapt a less girlie beer intake, i opted to drink rolling rock's yesterday (in addition to 8, count'em, 8 ciders).

the ciders go down much easier. they're like cheap women!

i had a huge rum'n'coke (rum, with some coke) to start off the day. that did nicely.

but really, sundays being the football (and now, baseball) days that they are, there's a feeling of requirement for a beer. a glass just doesn't feel right. y'need a bottle of sorts, or at least a can.

thats when the rolling rocks kicked in. they're yer general beer flavor beers. couldn't possibly differentiate them from, say, coors or bud or miller or sam adams. but, i downed 4-5 of'em quick enough to no longer be able to taste'em.

ahhh, the power of beer.

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I'm new to the concept of watching sport on TV and drinking beer.

A funny thing happened a few months ago: I found myself in the supermarket thinking: "Tomorrow's The Grand Prix. I need to buy a couple of bottles of good beer."

I don't know where the fuck that thought came from; brainwashed by advertising most likely.

One problem that I have with this kind of drinking is that if you factor-in the build-up to a sporting event and the analysis afterwards, you can be sitting in front of the TV for between three and four hours.

I can drink myself into a coma in that time, but way before that happens there a point where I've had so much alcohol that watching any rapid movement becomes an uncomfortable experience.

Also if the game or whatever doesn't go your way and you're tanked up on alcohol, you're going to want to break something aren't you?

When I was a reckless teenager I came home drunk one night and shot the TV in my bedroom with a pistol crossbow (it stuck in the control panel).

There's an art to drinking in front of the tv; one I will spend most of my 30s perfecting.

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When I was a reckless teenager I came home drunk one night and shot the TV in my bedroom with a pistol crossbow (it stuck in the control panel).
Which makes you a corss between Elvis and Conan, I guess.

I was in Beijing for a weekend 3 weeks ago. I participated in a Chinese tea ceremony with two local girls I met in Tiannamen Square (long story). I am now a big fan of Ginseng Oolong tea.

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I was in Beijing for a weekend 3 weeks ago. I participated in a Chinese tea ceremony with two local girls I met in Tiannamen Square (long story). I am now a big fan of Ginseng Oolong tea.

You know I'm always interested in stories about ceremonies involving two girls. No matter how long it is.

Speaking of tea, Rob's post intrigued me in the sense that I started wondering what will happen if tea and beer were drunk consecutively. I just took a cup of Lipton and half a bottle of San Miguel Beer. And then, just to be safe - I ate a big mac.

Conclusion : I should have installed handlebars on my toilet.

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I came home drunk one night and shot the TV in my bedroom with a pistol crossbow (it stuck in the control panel).

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A funny thing happened a few months ago: I found myself in the supermarket thinking: "Tomorrow's The Grand Prix. I need to buy a couple of bottles of good beer."

the jewish have a word for this:

"barmitzvah"

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Also if the game or whatever doesn't go your way and you're tanked up on alcohol, you're going to want to break something aren't you?

an interesting point, and one that shows itself after any college team's big win. or big loss.

now, granted, i can drink boat loads and boat loads of alkeyhal with no effect, but... i've tried to get drunk while watching games and have never been able to do it. probably because as soon as i am drunk, the game loses all importance, and i start groping the women in the room inappropriately.

however, i do welcome you to the fascination (addiction) of beer and tv sports. there's no turning back now.

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I was in Beijing for a weekend 3 weeks ago. I participated in a Chinese tea ceremony with two local girls I met in Tiannamen Square (long story). I am now a big fan of Ginseng Oolong tea.

dave, are there any memorials of such at tiannamen square of the tank-vs-man incident? thats one of my all-time favorite photos -- a wonderful representation of life, illustrated through life. very powerful.


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Speaking of tea, Rob's post intrigued me in the sense that I started wondering what will happen if tea and beer were drunk consecutively. I just took a cup of Lipton and half a bottle of San Miguel Beer. And then, just to be safe - I ate a big mac. Conclusion : I should have installed handlebars on my toilet.

i blame the tea.

beers and mcdonalds go ver well together. a 24-hour mcdonalds is typically the post-bar/club closing hangout.

though happily individual parts of a nutricious, balanced breakfast, milk and orange juice are also not to be mixed. a lesson learned in the young life of one rob kamphausen.

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It always strikes me as odd that these fast food places don't do beer. Of course, there are pubs where you can get a burger.

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It always strikes me as odd that these fast food places don't do beer. Of course, there are pubs where you can get a burger.

huh. thats a good point. i guess i never really thought about it.

a 'mcbeer' would probably be an excellent seller, as youngins and alcoholics alike would delight in getting one supersized.

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quote:
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I was in Beijing for a weekend 3 weeks ago. I participated in a Chinese tea ceremony with two local girls I met in Tiannamen Square (long story). I am now a big fan of Ginseng Oolong tea.

dave, are there any memorials of such at tiannamen square of the tank-vs-man incident? thats one of my all-time favorite photos -- a wonderful representation of life, illustrated through life. very powerful.


Hardly. That man was reported to have later been executed by the government. The oppression of the Tiannamen protestors was done by the same authoritarian and repressive government which is still in power.

Tiannamen Square isn't famous in China for being the site of a failed pro-democracy protest in 1988 or whenever it was: its famous because its the centre of Beijing, surrounded by Mao's tomb, the People's Congress (the Chinese equivalent of Capitol Hill and the White House rolled into one) and the Forbidden City (the Emperor of China's palace).

But yes, I also love that photo. Staring down a column of tanks like that.... awesome, inspirational courage.

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I've been slowly reading back through the Teabags thread as I plan to bind parts of it into a small hardback book. This is not, I might add, for any personal gain, but because a few years ago, when I entertained the ridiculous notion that someone might want to employ me, I did a pretty amateurish job of binding my CV and it was something that I enjoyed doing.

Initially I was just going to collect mine and Dave's stories together, but that seemed rather big-headed and, the more I thought about it, the more appealing, the idea of incorporating parts of the thread into the book, became. As the days go by, the project seems to grow in scope and ambition, as I think of more things I can do with it.

Anyway, reading back through the Teabags thread made me think about the effect it has had on my life.

Before I began reading and occasionally contributing to the thread, I drank only ordinary Tea made with PG Tips teabags, or, on rare occasions, one of those fruit flavoured blends.

Now I have a massive assortment of Tea. I used to keep it in the drawer of the Wardrobe in the spare room. When I lost my home, I obviously couldn't take the wardrobe with me, as it was too big, but I took the drawer full of tea.

Here is the current inventory of its contents:

Whittard of Chelsea Green Tea (loose leaf)
Whittard of Chelsea Mango Indica (loose leaf)
Jackson's Of Piccadilly Green Tea with Apple (Bags)
Jackson's Of Piccadilly Green Tea (Bags)
Waitrose Peppermint Tea (Bags)
Twinings Keemun (Bags)
Clipper No.3 Shangri-La Tea (Bags)

Taylors of Harrogate Cloud Forest Coffee

Jackson's Of Piccadilly Green Tea with Lemon (Bags)
Jackson's Of Piccadilly Green Tea with Mint (Bags)
Clipper Ayurvedic Detox (Bags)
A big packet of Silver Spoon caster sugar
Twinings Chai (Bags)
Twinings Jasmine Green Tea (Bags)

Clipper No.19 Bright Penny Tea (Bags)
Clipper No.8 Adam's Peak Tea (Bags)
Dragonfly Organic Swirling Mist White Tea (Bags)
Clipper No.17 Bourbon Vanilla Tea (Bags)
Twinings Green Tea Selection (Bags)
Twinings Rose Pouchong (Bags)


I've also become very interested in the history of Tea and it's amazing how many books are published on this subject. I now own four or five books about tea, all of them published within the last couple of years. One of them is even signed by the author.

Recently I've become very interested in Japanese cooking and I read in one of the recipe books, that the optimum water temperature for making green tea is 80 degrees centigrade. Now when I make a pot of Green Tea, which I do several times a day, I measure the water temperature with a sugar thermometer before pouring it over the leaves.

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The oppression of the Tiannamen protestors was done by the same authoritarian and repressive government which is still in power.

Tiannamen Square isn't famous in China for being the site of a failed pro-democracy protest in 1988 or whenever it was: its famous because its the centre of Beijing, surrounded by Mao's tomb, the People's Congress (the Chinese equivalent of Capitol Hill and the White House rolled into one) and the Forbidden City (the Emperor of China's palace).

A while ago I saw programme on Chinese youth culture and it was disturbing the degree to which the Tiananmen Square massacre has been white-washed from history.

At first I thought that maybe the people who were interviewed were avoiding discussing it, in case there were reprecussions. But the young people who were interviewed face-to-face and anonimously talked candidly and often controversially about the governments control over their activities and I was left with the impression that they either know very little about Tiananmen or just don't see it as relevant to their current position in Chinese society.

I found amazing that something of this magnitude could be so easily buried.

James Fenton summed it up better than I could in this poem:

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Tiananmen

Tiananmen
Is broad and clean
And you can't tell
Where the dead have been
And you can't tell
What happened then
And you can't speak
Of Tiananmen.

You must not speak.
You must not think.
You must not dip
Your brush in ink.
You must not say
What happened then,
What happened there
in Tiananmen.

The cruel men
Are old and deaf
Ready to kill
But short of breath
And they will die
Like other men
And they'll lie in state
In Tiananmen.

They lie in state.
They lie in style.
Another lie's
Thrown on the pile,
Thrown on the pile
By the cruel men
To cleanse the blood
From Tiananmen.

Truth is a secret.
Keep it dark.
Keep it dark
In your heart of hearts.
Keep it dark
Till you know when
Truth may return
To Tiananmen.

Tiananmen
Is broad and clean
And you can't tell
Where the dead have been
And you can't tell
When they'll come again.
They'll come again
To Tiananmen.

Hong Kong, 15 June 1989


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I'm pretty sure there were newsreaders on one of the Chinese television stations who were fired for talking about it while it was going on...

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But yes, I also love that photo. Staring down a column of tanks like that.... awesome, inspirational courage.

kamphausen-esque!

i'd really love to get the photo framed. one aspect of the photo i enjoy most are the grocery bags he's carrying. an amazing way to relate the man to any one of us, as he was out doing a normal task we've all had to do at one point. a normal guy doing a normal thing on a normal day... then finding the courage and conviction to do the humanly impossible act of confronting a line of one of the earth's most imposing and powerful land assault vechiles -- by himself!

amazing.

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Before I began reading and occasionally contributing to the thread, I drank only ordinary Tea made with PG Tips teabags, or, on rare occasions, one of those fruit flavoured blends.

huh.

mebbe there's more to this thraed than i thought! i've never really read the bulk of its heart -- or any tea "advertisement" within. i'll have to give them a look, and see if anything sounds appealing.

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Recently I've become very interested in Japanese cooking

the style, as well as the food?

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Myself, I'm annoyed that this thread hasn't turned anyone onto coffee. The tea drinkers swell their numbers incessantly, and soon the night of the long knives shall arrive.
You're right about that photo, Rob. As for the chinese cooking, maybe he just likes thick, overly sweet sauces?

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I've heard something about an anti Bush tea party being held outside Buck House during the chimp's visit there. Is this something I'm likely to see mentioned on the news later this evening, or has somebody been pulling my leg?

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I've heard something about an anti Bush tea party being held outside Buck House during the chimp's visit there. Is this something I'm likely to see mentioned on the news later this evening, or has somebody been pulling my leg?

I'd not heard this.

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Now I have a massive assortment of Tea.

Me too, but not as diverse as yours.

Good poem, too.

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as a bw7 recommendation, i actually tried jackson's of piccadilly green tea with lemon. was at some fancy place, recognized the name (cuz its much more odd than, say, "tea") and gave it a shot.

... hm. it was tea.

mebbe i'm doin somethin wrong.

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At last, my 500th post - a score the English Cricket team can only dream of.

Clipper Ayrurvedic Rejuvenate tea is one of the strangest blends I've ever drunk.

As you can tell from its rather unpoetic moniker, it's a designer blend rather than a proper single estate tea. On the box it's described as:

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An uplifting infusion of lemon, cardamom, fenugreek and gotu kola believed to rejuvenate in Ayurveda.
It smells strongly of curry spices and lemon and that's what it tastes of too. Curried tea!? It sounds vile but I think it's one of the nicest teas I've sampled so far.


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as a bw7 recommendation, i actually tried jackson's of piccadilly green tea with lemon. was at some fancy place, recognized the name (cuz its much more odd than, say, "tea") and gave it a shot.

... hm. it was tea.

mebbe i'm doin somethin wrong.

I really do think tea is an acquired taste. Going back to the beginning of this year, unadulterated green tea made me feel physically ill whenever I drank it. I only perservered with it because I've been trying to reduce the amount of carbonated drinks I tip down my throat. Living in England, Tea is something you just learn to drink. Although it's not ceremonialized like it is in China, it's still a big part of the culture.

A few months ago in an English magazine called WORD there was an interview with Paul Heaton, who fronts a band called The Beautiful South. It was one of those interviews where a celebrity is supposed to impart their life philosophy. One of Paul Heaton's pearls of wisdom was: "Tea is Hateful."

He made a good point, which is that, in England, people are always offering you tea and it becomes like a constant sales pitch. It's offered up as a remedy for anything from cancer to divorce - "What you need is a good hot cup of tea."

There was an Irish sit-com called Father Ted about three priests who live on the remote backwater of craggy island. Their housekeeper, Mrs Doyle is always offering tea and won't take no for an answer. I remember one episode where Father Ted came downstairs in the middle of the night and Mrs Doyle was standing in the dark with a pot of tea just in case one of the priests wanted a cup.

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I'd be quite interested to hear about this. A couple of years ago, while I was in Eritrea, the girls in my hotel asked me if I wanted to drink coffee with them. I turned them down because I was in a hurry.

Later on I discovered what an important social ceremony coffee drinking is in the country. If someone asks you to drink coffee with them you really need to set aside the whole afternoon. It's tremendously involved; You drink about four pots of coffee made with the same grounds and, in between, incense is poured onto the hot coals and chocolate gets passed around. I turned these girls down because I was ignorant of the culture and it must have looked incredibly rude.

There's a sacred Baobab tree called Marim Derit (I know I have spelt this wrong) a few kms outside of Keren. A local legend is that if you are having difficulty in having a child you should go to the the tree and drink coffee with the first stranger you meet. After that you will be able to conceive.

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At last, my 500th post - a score the English Cricket team can only dream of.




congrats! ... to the american cricket team!

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I really do think tea is an acquired taste. Going back to the beginning of this year, unadulterated green tea made me feel physically ill whenever I drank it. I only perservered with it because I've been trying to reduce the amount of carbonated drinks I tip down my throat. Living in England, Tea is something you just learn to drink. Although it's not ceremonialized like it is in China, it's still a big part of the culture.




i've forced myself to adapt to beers in the past few months. i now order drafts in pubs and such. i should probably give tea the same chance.

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He made a good point, which is that, in England, people are always offering you tea and it becomes like a constant sales pitch. It's offered up as a remedy for anything from cancer to divorce - "What you need is a good hot cup of tea."




in the states, i'd say that coffee and beer have done the same thing, simply depending upon circumstance. divorce? thats beer. rough day? thats coffee.

coffee is something else that i always wish that i enjoyed. i love the smell, but the taste just idn't for me. however... everyone offers coffee! its free and, apparently, wonderful. i like to take advantage of free offers.

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btw... did you guys know that, on this new board format, you can view all 2,000 posts in this thread on a single page?

its... hypnotizing.


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Rob has sent me an e-mail inviting us to migrate to his message board - we're looking at ways of saving the Teabags thread there. DMcD, if yoou've saved it, or Neilencio, I may have to borrow a copy from you.

The new DC boards are in place, as detailed on his message board - they're bloody ugly and hard to navigate, and most importantly, their introduction will kill this thread (and all old threads).

So, check out his site




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I can’t recall my brother ever liking tea but after he decided to cut down on soft drinks, because they’d eaten all the enamel off his teeth, I guess he thought he’d give tea another try.

While he was staying with us at Christmas, I watched my him struggle to enjoy a mug of blackcurrant tea. I’ve had some very nice fruit teas, but there’s an awful lot of cheap and nasty stuff out there, which is pretty rank, and often tastes a bit like fruit squash that’s been made with water collected from a rain gutter.

My brother took a couple of sips of the tea and announced that it needed some sugar. After he’d repeated this cycle a few times there must have been about twelve teaspoons of added sugar swirling about in the liquid. The tea had transformed into a super saturated solution, with a desert of sugar filling the bottom quarter of the mug.

Then his daughter came running into the kitchen, in her mermaid costume, sniffed at the mug of tea, made a face, and asked him why he was drinking it. My brother looked really miserable – like he wished that he could still drink coke - and said he didn’t know

Eventually I took pity on him and poured it down the sink.

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ahh... the famous and relatable quest to turn all drinks to soda

in my younger youth, i'd add obscene amounts of hershey's syrup to my milk, turning a nutricious glass of calcium into a semi-liquid candy bar. come winter time, similar concoctions were created with dozens of scoops of the hot chocolate powder.

hitting my nurturing alcoholic years, in college, booze was often intertwined with too much soda, orange juice, or kool aid, in an effort to retain the soda-like drink we were looking for.

thats good stuff, right there.

its rare that i can find something i enjoy plain. tea has to mix with milk and sugar and sometimes honey to taste just right. ice cream needs its toppings. nearly every meal i eat has to have salt on it, whether it needs it or not. lately, i've been adding steak sauce to any meat i have for dinner.

i think i just like tampering with stuff.


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I was glancing through one of those catalogues that fall out of the weekend papers, when I came across 'Monkey Picked Tea'. This Chinese tea is picked by trained Monkeys who scale cliff faces and other inaccessible places in order to harvest the leaves from wild tea plants.

For the coffee drinkers among you, there is Weasel Coffee - Coffee that has passed through the digestive tract of weasels! Given the choice I know what I would choose.

Last weekend, my dad bought an hilariously expensive bar of chocolate which was flavoured with cardamom pods. These are brittle and crunchy and have a perfumey flavour that contrasts well with the dark chocolate. On the wrapper there was a list of other flavours (sea salt!?!) one of which was Earl Grey tea.

I’ve noticed that Marks & Spencer are using green tea as an ingredient in a lot of their Chinese meals. I can’t vouch for the flavour as I only occasionally eat fish, which puts a lot of Chinese food off my menu, but I am planning to experiment with green tea as a base for a vegetable stock – maybe for a soup or a casserole.

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its... hypnotizing.




And rather scary...

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This Chinese tea is picked by trained Monkeys who scale cliff faces and other inaccessible places in order to harvest the leaves from wild tea plants.




just wait til they form unions!


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For the coffee drinkers among you, there is Weasel Coffee - Coffee that has passed through the digestive tract of weasels! Given the choice I know what I would choose.




i'd heard about that. its lavishly expensive, as well.

i think there's a similar sorta ordeal with a truffle that passes through somethings digestive track (like it really matters what animal).

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I am planning to experiment with green tea as a base for a vegetable stock – maybe for a soup or a casserole.




so... do you guys like all this tea stuff for cooking purposes? general culinary expansion purposes? beneficial medical applications?

lil bit o' everything?


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my sister recently told me about blue moon tea. she's all nutty into this crap, like you guys.

i dug the scottish tea.

yay herritage!


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Green Tea Component Kills Leukemia Cells

THURSDAY, April 8 (HealthDayNews) -- A component of green tea helps kill cells of B-cell chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL), the second most common leukemia in American adults, according to new research.

Mayo Clinic researchers found that the component, called epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG), destroys leukemia cells by interrupting the communication signals they need to survive. The research appears online in the journal Blood.

CLL is most often diagnosed in people in their mid-to-late 60s. Chemotherapy is used to treat the most severe cases, but there is no cure for CLL.

In this study, the Mayo scientists found that EGCG prompted leukemia cells to die in eight of 10 patient samples tested in a laboratory.

"We're continuing to look for therapeutic agents that are nontoxic to the patient but kill cancer cells, and this finding with EGCG is an excellent start," study leader Dr. Neil E. Kay said in a prepared statement. "Understanding this mechanism and getting these positive early results gives us a lot to work with in terms of offering patients with this disease more effective, easily tolerated therapies earlier."


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This was supposed to go on the old DC Boards a few days before they shut down, but I got bored with writing it.


GREAT LAST TEAS

FAREWELL BREAKFAST TEA


Russell's Breakfast Tea first appeared on supermarket shelves in 1997. After an initial 6 month trial period in the north of England, distribution spread across the rest of the country. This strongly flavoured blend has a very distinct, almost 'leafy' aftertaste. In a recent test, in a popular food magazine, the tea divided opinion, one of the participants describing it as "like having a compost heap in [her] mouth."

Recent converts to the tea, or those who have seen the recent billboard advertisement campaign, which recommends drinking it cold, may be unaware that the beverage has a longer and darker history, stretching back to the beginning of the last century.

Russell's Farewell Breakfast tea was first created by Russell's & Sons Teas Ltd, in 1914. It was, in fact, a blend of three teas that the company were already producing, supplemented with wild herbs harvested from the fields around the factory. Initially these were picked by children from the nearby Sadler's Primary School and later by members of the local community.

In a document dating from 1915, and now on display at the Docklands Warehouse Museum on the Isle of Dogs, these herbs are listed as:

Sweet Parsley

Stepney Ginger

Apple Leaf

Ground Cokeberry
(This, along with the parsley, is probably responsible for the tea's tart/leafy aftertaste).

The tea had been developed in a hurry, following a request by the English government, to food manufacturers, to provide the troops with large quantities of basic foodstuffs in the run up to the First World War. Rather than foist a low quality tea onto the British army, the patriotic John Russell elected to a manufacture a new blend with "sufficient enough character to be drunk without milk or sugar."

Although the blend was made using teas already in production by the Russell's factory, it had been very carefully put together by his wife and daughters (the sons in the 'Russells & Sons' business. John Russell had no male children) who spent weeks mixing different quantities of tea leaves and herbs in an effort to produce a blend that in Russell's words "would reflect the undaunting character of the English regiments" and "will carry the memory of England to soldiers stationed in far off places, so that they will remember what it is they are fighting for."

A pouch of farewell Breakfast tea was, in theory at least, delivered to the house of each and every serviceman before they left to do their duty on the continent. As well as the tea, the pouch also contained short rations of butter and jam and small measures of salt, flour and sugar, that formed the basic ingredients of Farewell Breakfast Scones, which could be made using the accompanying recipe card.

The label on the pouch featured a line drawing in dark brown ink of an elderly couple standing proudly in the doorway of a quaint English cottage, waving to their son as he strolled down the garden path in his army uniform. The address of the serviceman was stamped in a blank space along the bottom.

Unfortunately the glue that bonded the labels to the pouches was of poor quality. Many came unstuck during transit and blew around the streets for weeks. As a result many soldiers never received their small ration of tea that was to make up their last meal in this country. Meanwhile, undelivered stocks piled up in local post offices where they became the targets of mice and ants.

As the war progressed, satirical cartoons of the label began to appear, featuring the same elderly couple standing in the doorway of their cottage. On this occasion the woman was weeping into her hands. Her husband, stoically biting his lip as he comforted her, clutched a small piece of paper informing them of their son's death. In the place of the serviceman, a postman strolled down the path on his way to deliver more messages of bereavement.

The fact that Farewell Breakfast Tea was drunk by troops at the front line, most notably before the Battle of the Somme, was not lost on a generation of English romantics. After the war, Farewell Breakfast Tea, became associated with suicides and was frequently used to wash down does of poison or sleeping pills. At one tea shop, in central London, a policeman, in plain clothes, was placed on a permanent watch, to identify drinkers of Farewell Breakfast Tea and alert their colleagues to any suicide risks, so that they could be prevented from throwing themselves off the nearby Waterloo Bridge.

Most notable among these deaths was the actor Anthony Carr, who frequented the London stage during the early 1960s, usually playing Shakespearean roles. Carr brewed a pot of the Farewell breakfast Tea before hanging himself from the rafters of his London flat. He had been due to appear in court the following week on indecency charges, relating to his relationship with a 16 year old boy (The artist, Stephan Hope, who was murdered on Hampstead Heath in 1983).

As he jerked on the end of the rope, he kicked the teapot off the nearby table knocking the lid off and allowing the wet tea leaves to ooze over the carpet. The tea stain remains to this day; Although the current residents of the property have redecorated the room, they keep the old carpet in the loft, along with some of the period furniture, and lay it down once a year, on Open London weekend, in which tenants of listed properties around the capital open their doors to the general public.

In 1993 Russell's Tea Ltd was absorbed by the Kenton Foods conglomerate and Farewell Breakfast Tea was withdrawn from sale. It's removal from the shelves was probably more to do with corporate restructuring within the company, than any acknowledgement of the blend's morbid image.

The tea was re-launched quietly under it's new shortened moniker a few years later. In March 2004 the Financial Times reported that, as of 2005, Russell's will cease to trade under their own name and will be absorbed into Kenton Foods brand.

Pouches of Farewell Breakfast tea along with recipe cards for Farewell Breakfast Scones are still occasionally found among soldier's things.

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Selling tea to china

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PURVEYOR of fine teas Taylors of Harrogate has cracked what could be considered one of the most difficult markets in the world – they are selling tea to China.



The specialist tea and coffee merchant, which exports to 30 different countries, this month sent its first ever shipment to Shanghai – a £30,000 order of flavoured teas.
The order included China Rose Petal tea, which is grown in China and then imported, blended and packaged by Taylors, before being exported back to China...



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"I just watched Bedazzled.
No, not the Hurley/Fraser one, the original.

I hope Mike's seen it, because there's a wealth of inspiration for a fallen angel tempter

Meanwhile, it's sad that Spike Milligan died this week, but I'm glad he didn't burn out and lose that spike.

What are we going to do now ?"




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2005, Rob? 2005? Who is DCMBs, anyway? John Titor?

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I can't be arsed to read all 70-odd pages of this massive thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned much, but...

Have any of you gone out of your way to find some non-brand name, home-made tea in different parts of the world?

I've done so whenever I do some traveling. In northern British Columbia, for instance, I found a wide assortment of teas specific to various regions of the province, made of different fruits and herbs (they were pretty much all herbal). They weren't in teabags, though, so I had to use a strainer. A couple of them were fairly good, but the majority of them tasted a bit too bitter for my tastes then. They're probably an acquired taste.

About 7 years ago I went camping with a group of friends at a cabin, and while we were all walking back from the lake to our cabin, a couple of the girls decided to pick up some of the local foliage at random to make tea.

So most people had a sip of this concoction they had made with these "weeds" in boiling water. It didn't really have much of a taste, as I recall, but about half an hour later my heart started to race... and it wouldn't slow down to its normal pace.

Someone drove me to the hospital fairly soon after that (luckily no one had been drinking), and my heart kept racing at about three times its normal rate. I felt like I was about to pass out several times.

In the hospital I was hooked up to one of those heart rate machines that beep at the same pace as your heartbeat... well, my heartbeat was going so fast it began to flatline! Almost gave my friends in the other room a heart attack themselves.

Anyway, the doctor on duty administered something that slowed my heartbeat down to its regular pace once again, and I was able to go back to the cabin within half an hour.

Later on I learned that the irregular heartbeat was caused by Wolf-Parkinson-White Syndrome, which is basically an electrical problem in the heart, but it's not serious. I guess the strange brew of tea the girls concocted set it off. It's never happened since then, even after heavy cardiovascular workouts.

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