From AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE MAGAZINE

Since I can no longer find any news sources that DTWB won't deride as "liberal".

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The Cost of Empire


President Bush’s war policy marks the beginning of the end of America’s era of global dominance.


By Christopher Layne

The administration’s U-turn decision to ask for United Nations help in Iraq, and President George W. Bush’s request that Congress appropriate $87 billion to fund the occupation and reconstruction of that country send a very clear message: the administration’s Iraq policy is a fiasco. And a foreseeable one at that.

U.S. intelligence agencies predicted that American troops occupying Iraq would not be welcomed as liberators but would be resisted. A pre-invasion State Department report warned that the administration had the proverbial snowball’s chance of transforming Iraq into a Western-style democracy (a conclusion reinforced by a recent Zogby poll of Iraqis that found only 38 percent of Iraqis favor democracy, while 50 percent believe that “democracy is a western way of doing things and it will not work here”). Similarly, it was obvious that the administration’s go-it-alone hubris, combined with its sledgehammer diplomacy, would chill Washington’s relations with the other major powers and trigger a worldwide backlash of hostility toward the United States....

http://www.amconmag.com/10_06_03/cover.html

An unsurprising assesment. That is unless you just accept the White House press briefings as gosphel and dismiss anything to the contrary as the treasonous machinations of the "liberals" out to 'get' Bush out of partisan hatred. I have been making many of the same criticisms as the article. but when I say it, It's because I hate Bush and have some evil treasonous agenda that needs to be dismissed if out of patriotism at the very least. What's AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES excuse?

I also put up a very detalied list of news sources as well as quotes from Republicans that say that Clinton actually did a lot to fight terrorism. The attack on the Al Queda camp was in fact praised by the right as shown in my quote (for a while at least). The book excerpt even details covert actions against Al Queda and the predictable partisan, FBI, and military opposition to anything that may have benefitted Clinton's public image (not to mention American safety).

In the period between WTC attack I and II, there was a great deal being done. For someone who claims not to be partisan, you sure are eager to carry on the partisan rhetoric about Clinton only making token efforts if anything.

I think i gave more than enough (legitamite [read "LIBERAL"] news)sources to answer your claims. As for Clinton being a "draft dodger". Do you really want to go there??? I can find my conservative chickenhawk list for you if you'd like. I think Cheney for one had 'other priorities'. Limbaugh had hemmoroids. and on and on.. I can bring up some http://www.awolbush.com as well too. And of course "Clinton's military" was good enough for Afghanistan wasn't it? And wasn't it Rumsfeld's Pentagon that was busy closing bases left and right and is now dangeruosly stretched thin in Iraq to the point that tours of duty are ridiculously overextended and we're even sending in the reserves for indefinate periods?? Please.

I mean partisan rhetoric is all fun and games. That is until steps that could have been made all fall by the wayside in an orgy of Clinton-hating and someone ends up getting hurt. I think I can argue that partisanship paved the way to 9/11.

And you didn't mention anything about what led me to lead the conversation away from Iraq for a moment and over to 9/11. The fact that a REPUBLICAN Congressman is ready to sue the White House to get documents pertaining to Congress' 9/11 probe. What the F**k do they have to hide anyways?? You also failed to acknowledge the Zogby poll. The American Conservative Magaine article did.

That and the fact that i'm sick of the incessant misrepresentation that Clinton did NOTHING to fight terrorism. If he did nothing then neither did Bush. That is until AFTER it was too late.


The Bush administration is also now openly censoring investigative reporting in Iraq and will not allow incoming flights with caskets to Dover Air Force Base to be filmed. When will the American public wake up?

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But there sure as hell was a bitter, slanderous and partisan attack on Bush in the wake of 9/11/2001.
You mean like now, 2 years later huh? Because as i recall, post 9/11 the democrats gave Bush an incredibly wide berth and carte blanche to do whatever he pleased for close to 2 years (anything else, like actual debate and questions would have been treasonous and unpatriotic) and are even now being criticized for it on the campaign circuit.


Oh by the way, Pat Buchanan is "Deep Throat". There is absolutely no doubt in my mind now. Because I know now that he understands that sometimes things extend further than "My side" or "your side" and not letting the "libs" win. Sometimes it's simply about right and wrong. Democrat or Republican. Doesn't matter. Sometimes winning an election doesn't justify the means to getting it won and sometimes a "New American Century" doesn't mean you have to use an American tragedy to get there. And sometimes being an American means doing more than falling into lock-step with your partys current leadership no matter what.