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Originally posted by Whomod:

um....

psst, Dave.

As I recall, you think that ALL Muslims are a threat to your way of life.

As for Bush, yeah, he cooled off his "crusade" rhetoric for political reasons but i'm sure he still shares that "extreme" minority you mention.




That is deliberate distortion and misinformation on your part, and distortion on many levels.

I believe, based on evidence, that Islam has a disproportionately high ratio of homicidal fanatics, who, based on scriptures of the Quran, think it's okay to wage war in the name of Allah, engage in suicide bombings in the name of Allah, beat women and deprive them of rights, treating women as property, perform "honor-killings" of women, and "put to the sword" those who convert from Islam or teach non-Muslim beliefs in Muslim countries. All based on the Quran.

I also believe that there are millions of peaceful Muslims in the world, but only because they don't adhere strongly to Quran teachings. The more true to the Quran, the more fanatic and dangerous.

Or as I already said it in my September 30th post, about two thirds down the topic page:


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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
Seven million Muslims in America. SEVEN MILLION. If only 1% were to be extremist, that's 70,000.
And dickheads out there question the detainment of 660 or so. Man, if I were were President... there'd be one hell of a lot more arrests and deportations.

I think I've been pretty clear that not all Muslims are hostile to America (as I quoted earlier, 30 to 50 percent of Muslim nations are boycotting American products, but as I've said elsewhere, a large percentage, even within the heart of Muslim extremism, Saudi Arabia and Iran, would like to see strict Islamic law abolished.)

As I've said before, not all Muslims are the enemy. But those who embrace Islamic fundamentalism seem hell-bent on our destruction, and the destruction of anyone else who disagrees with them.
And not just of the U.S., but destruction of the whole of Western culture. I feel the threat that these extremists pose --whether less than 1%, or 20 to 30%-- is dismissed too easily by liberal democrats and the liberal media.

I do feel all of Islamic fundamentalism is the enemy.
The more strictly Islamic law is practiced, the more dangerous it is to the rest of the world, even to other Muslim groups who disagree. There is a glamourization of holy war and conquest, and suicidally giving one's life for The Cause that, again, resembles that of the Nazis and Imperial Japanese, that had similar ideas about honor and code of the warrior, and extermination of all ideological opposition.

Maybe 50 or 100 years or more ago, Islamic Fundamentalism meant something else. But now, in its widely practiced present form, it is a fanatical and destructive belief system. Although the spread of Islam, and the continued enforcement of Islam, is pretty destructive from its beginnings.
And certainly, it is under threat of violence and death that many throughout the world remain Islamic today.






In other words, the more strictly Muslims practice fundamentalist Islam in its present form --the more true to the Quran-- the more dangerous they are to the rest of the world.

But changing Iraq, as a spearhead to change the entire Middle East, is about culturally shifting to a more educated and tolerant Muslim world. And hopefully a more tolerant and less dangerous form of Islam. If they have economic opportunities, then perhaps they'll be less inclined toward suicide bombings. Although, UNLESS THE IDEOLOGY ITSELF CHANGES, then economic development will just mean more economically empowered terrorists, with more resources to wage holy war on the West.

I might also add --as you well know, but are eager to misrepresent-- my views are clearly NOT the same as those of the Bush administration. Bush, at least in his public rhetoric, has a much more favorable opinion of Islam than I do, in his assertion that al Qaida represents the "hijacking" of one of the world's great religions. Whereas in contrast, I believe it is Islamic ideology itself that explicitly endorses violence against the perceived enemies of Islam.

And I see no basis for you to be so sure that Bush has an extreme view of wanting to "Kill 'em all", as you phrased it earlier, while making up quotes out of thin air.