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Dave the Wonder Boy said:
You give lip service to the idea that...



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Matter Eater Man:
I don't buy that one party is more patriotic than the other...



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...even as you allege that all the Republican leadership are "chickenhawks" and "cowards", and "draft evaders" who are somehow worse than Clinton because they served in the National Guard. Instead of evading service altogether and protesting the war like Clinton (who in truth did nothing heroic, he simply lied to his draft officer, and evaded service in a cowardly way by making excuses and writing false letters of why he couldn't serve).

Love that Orwellian double think (maintaining two contradictory ideas simultaneously).

The contradiction reveals the lie in your alleged non-partisan view of patriotism.



It's a simple fact that there are many Republicans leaders with distinguished military records. The article I posted does not say all Republican leaders were draft dodgers as you claim. Even so, in my own words stated the obvious to make it clear I wasn't implying a "Democrats are better than Republicans" type argument. This is in contrast to some people who post something & say "here is more proof that Liberals (fill in the blank with something negative)" Actually I think the writer was addressing the "Orwellian double think" of those that made an issue of Clinton's supposed draft dodging but turn a blind eye to those in their party. The writer is clearly being partisan but I think makes a good point for all of us.


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And despite your Clintonesque distortion of the truth, you still said...

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Matter Eater man said:
What Mr. Williams failed to highlight is our current slate of Republican leaders who dodged Vietnam for the very worst reasons. Some of them include: President George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Hastert, George Will, Bill Bennett, Trent Lott, Kenneth Starr, Newt Gingrich, John Ashcroft, Dick Armey, Phil Gramm, Dan Quayle and, the biggest coward of them all, Tom DeLay.



Clearly stating who you were implicating.
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Matter Eater Man:
Why is it conservatives ignore their own cowardly draft-dodgers, but are all too ready to attack Democrats?



Again, you clearly say that George W. Bush, by serving in the National Guard, is a "draft dodger".



Actually neither Clinton or President Bush were draft dodgers if you go by the true definition. It applied to those that had been drafted & then tried dodging actually going into the services. The writer was addressing another columnist who despite being conservative had a liberal definition of a draft dodger by applying it to Clinton.

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And your alleging that the above is "not exactly what [you] posted", and that you said something to the contrary is just so much smoke and mirrors.



Please do remember you originally omitted the only part that I actually wrote while reposting the writer's article stating that was exactly what I said. You add it back in but dismiss it as lip service. So apparently what I do say is "lip service" and what I haven't is clearly implied & context means nothing.

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So... you are a lying piece of crap after all.


Considering the logic & word games you used to come by that conclusion I'm not the least bit offended. I will do some actual backpedalling and apologize for the "shield from enemy fire" crack I made a page back. That was low of me and I'm sorry. Oh & just to be clear that apology is only for that, nothing else is implied

Fair play!