RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events what would you like to happen to bin laden?

personally, i'd love to see him captured, stripped naked, and taken, via helicopter, to the heart of new york city.

then give him the count of ten, not unlike hide n'seek.

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ok, maybe three.

Televise. Pass legislation granting every American man, woman and child free popcorn.

Give him trial and conviction in an
international court of law, so there
is no question in the eyes of anyone
in the world that the evidence is
clear and overwhelming, for crimes
against humanity.

Then execute him.

With a box cutter.

[ 09-15-2001: Message edited by: Dave the Wonder Boy ]

The duller the blade, the better.

I like the symbolism of killing him
the same way his cronies murdered the
airline crew and passengers of the four
planes.

It makes me so angry that the passengers
and crew aboard those planes were killed
with such callousness. I just finished
watching AMERICA'S MOST WANTED,
where they described that passengers who
called on their cel phones described to
their families how they occasionally
kill a passenger with box-cutters, either
out of sheer hatred and contempt for
their American hostages, or to maintain
the level of terror among the remaining
passengers.

And what a cheap, crude instrument
to use for murdering someone.

I want the instrument of his death to
cheapen his execution, the way his
actions have cheapened the lives of
his many victims.

[ 09-15-2001: Message edited by: Dave the Wonder Boy ]

Responsibility for the 9/11/01 bombings is
simply the most recent page in his file of
atrocities. There's more than enough already to justify
aggressively pursuing him.

[ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: Dave the Wonder Boy ]

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Originally posted by Batwoman:

...no one tried to stop them. They only tried on the PA plane.

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Normally (before September 11th) people were told if they were taken hostage aboard a plane or elsewhere, to cooperate, to improve their chances of staying alive. Passengers aboard the first few flights probably thought their planes would be landed in Cuba or someplace,
and had no idea these animals were suicide
bombers.

When passengers on the Pennsylvania plane learned during their cel-phone calls to family that other hijacked planes had already been flown into the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon, they resolved to not allow their plane to be used
similarly, to bomb another target.

[ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: Dave the Wonder Boy ]

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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:

Responsibility for the 9/11/01 bombings is
simply the most recent pages in his file of
atrocities. There's more than enough already to justify
aggreseively pursuing him.

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To be honest, I wasn't sure of his past activities. He never got as much coverage here as he apparently does there in America.

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Originally posted by Batwoman:
I don't know, I guess it's just me and the training I've had, but I just don't think I could sit by and let someone take me hostege, especially if all they have is a simple little box cutter, something that I've used often when I worked in retail. Something that I'm not afraid of. Guns are another story, then I'd rethink what I was going to do...

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sounds simple, im sure.

but there's no way it WAS that simple.

the terrorists probably told the people that if they didn't behave, they'd crash the plane. im sure the people had no idea they were about to die -- and especially no idea they were going to be used to kill others.

in the case of the pennsylvania crash, when individuals called home on their cell phones, their spouses informed them of the WTC crash, so they had a good indication that they were going to be used in the same manner.

thats what caused the rebellion, because they knew they were dead, anyway.

I'd also like us to support the Afghan rebels and topple the Taliban, and then help them actually rebuild their civilization so as to demonstrate to the peaceful Islamic people that we do not wish them harm or injury. However, with this I have one hesitation: I am aware that there is a rebel movement against the Taliban, but I don't know their nature. Are they secular or moderate Muslims we can work with? Or will they turn into future enemies? Remember, Osama Ibn Ladin used to be OUR guy, who we used against the Soviets. Just like Saddam Hussein and Noriega used to be on our side. Our nation needs to really look at the people we're supporting around the world.

I, too, had the thought, how could a plane load of passengers be held hostage by a couple of guys with boxcutters? But I try to put myself in their place. They didn't know that the hijackers DIDN'T have guns. They didn't know there WASN'T a bomb on board. They just knew there were dead flight crew members in the aisle. Apparently, one of the hijackers announced to them that they were turning around and going back to the airport. When you're on an airplane, you can't see ahead of you; they didn't even know they were heading towards the WTC and the Pentagon. The people on the final flight only knew because they'd heard the news from people on the ground. They had information that the other planes did not have.

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Originally posted by Danny:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
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Responsibility for the 9/11/01 bombings is
simply the most recent pages in his file of
atrocities. There's more than enough already to justify
aggreseively pursuing him.

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To be honest, I wasn't sure of his past activities. He never got as much coverage here as he apparently does there in America.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Dan, you have to read the paper more often...

I personally would like him to get a fair trial, above and beyond anything else.

Why? Because his actions were attempts to undermine Western values. These include obedience to the rule of law. Let that freedom he tried to erode now judge him, and fairly.

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Originally posted by Apollo:
I agree with Dave the Wonder Boy, vis-a-vis putting him on trial. While killing him by assassination or military strike would be an acceptable outcome, IMO, I would much rather he be taken alive and put on trial for ALL his crimes. This way we show that in spite of all our country's lapses, we are still a nation of law and justice, not just revenge.

I'd also like us to support the Afghan rebels and topple the Taliban, and then help them actually rebuild their civilization so as to demonstrate to the peaceful Islamic people that we do not wish them harm or injury. However, with this I have one hesitation: I am aware that there is a rebel movement against the Taliban, but I don't know their nature. Are they secular or moderate Muslims we can work with? Or will they turn into future enemies? Remember, Osama Ibn Ladin used to be OUR guy, who we used against the Soviets. Just like Saddam Hussein and Noriega used to be on our side. Our nation needs to really look at the people we're supporting around the world.

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unfortunately, thats what ALWAYS seems to happen -- especially in that area.

there's bad guys, we go in, kick their ass, put the good guys in charge, who then turn into bad guys.

rinse, wash, repeat.