But when the cops make money every time to convenience store gets robbed ... doesn't that kinda make you think?

Oh, well. I guess it takes a lot to make people think.

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Point #1: Le Figaro. Yep, those French don't dig us screwing around in the Middle East, that's true. But boy, it's absolutely inconceivable that a government would lie, isn't it?

Your argument is predicated on the "divine right" of the government, and your trust that they will not lie. You can't go distrusting the French and then putting so much blind faith in our own government. Either governments are to be absolutely trusted, or they're not.

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From your second article, Dave:

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Last week, members of the Senate Armed Services Committee questioned Air Force Gen. Richard Myers about why the fighters hadn’t been able to get airborne sooner. Myers, since confirmed as the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, pointed out that far fewer aircraft have been detailed to watch for attacking planes since the end of the Cold War.
Senate: "So why didn't your planes get airborne when they were supposed to?"

Myers: "Ummm ... uh ... lack of defense spending! Yeah! We feul our planes with money, see. It's those damn liberals ... they didn't give us enough money to stuff into the gas tanks. That's it."

Ah, yes, I see now. Underfunded planes fly slower. Why didn't I see that before?

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My source for the surveillance bit is, as I noted, CNN. Figured you wouldn't want to argue with CNN. That's like kicking the Pope, only not as funny.

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Even by the leanest indicators that an investigation is warranted -- means, motive and opportunity -- the Shrub has got to be at the top of the list. As "President," he has the means and the opportunity. As an Oil Boy, he has the motive.

You guys crack me up. You'll go on and on about "survival of the fittest" and "it's human nature for the strong to conquer the weak." But when it comes time to take a critical look at the people in charge, you suddenly defend them as though they were small, fluffy bunnies, harmless and beyond reproach. No, suddenly it becomes impossible that people in our own government would do anything so sneaky or underhanded as killing a few thousand of its own citizens to build up motivation for a profit-earning war ... as though that very thing hasn't happened over and over again in history.

I appreciate the effort to keep me honest, Dave.

But I wanna hear you guys say it out loud (or type it, as the case may be), just for fun.

Tell me that there isn't a pipeline going through Afghanistan.

Tell me that the Shrub would never let innocent people die to make a buck.

I just wanna see if that's where you guys are coming from. If so, any further discussion will be moot ... you're already lost to the dark side.