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Originally posted by Jack, the Little Death:
And ultimately, it isn't gonna be guys like me that end up making a real difference, Rob. It's gonna be guys like you. Halfway-educated professionals with decent skills. All I can do is talk and knock down cops. You, my friend, are part of the infrastructure. You can actually make it stronger in the ways that really matter. But you gotta decide. Are you gonna march in line, or are you gonna stand up to it?
halfway?

...

so, i see you've laid out my options, lord vader.

either i join your side, and think the right way ... or i get myself a pair of jackboots (jackboots?) and unwittingly destroy our nation from the inside out?

huh.

i didnt realize i was so pivotal! i might wanna get my agent to bring this to arbitration court.

does your side cover medical? or that cool new eye laser surgery?

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Originally posted by Jack, the Little Death:
Guys like you are running out of time. Shit is falling down. We are right back where we were, one nuclear missile away from everything going kablooey.
since the dawn of nuclear technology, we've been at that point. only in superman IV were we ever close to escaping that reality, and look what happened there? we got some super powered sun-monster. and, honestly, who the hell wants that?

well... 'the shrub' maybe, but...

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Originally posted by Jack, the Little Death:
Hell, I couldn't even prove that 2 + 2 = 4 ... but it does.
this is my major fault with yer argument, since post one (even tho, technically, post one was by me, and i dont frequently argue with myself. ... but you know what i mean. .... or do you...).

the fact is, tho the same can not be said (even by you) of your argument, y'can prove 2 and 2 make 4. even i could! and not with much assistance at all!

y'got two apples. yer friend has two apples. y'both bring'em to the baseball field, put them down on the ground, count'em up .... and y'got four.

there y'go.

a newspaper comes along, writes the article with big headlines "WE'VE GOT FOUR!" and the whole world is happy.

...

but then the plot thickens.

someone hears a rumor about how your 'friend' bit one of the apples. perhaps eating most of it on the way to the field. you start thinking about it and realize that this 'friend' is actually a vegetarian, so of course he'd eat the apple. you notice that his way to the baseball field is much shorter ... and yet he took longer. what do you think he was doing that made him take so long?? ... thats right, eating!

so, by the time he got there, he probably didnt have 2 apples. he had 1 and-a-half.

this "buddy" of yours didnt help you discover 4 ... he brought you 3.5! and then let the newspapers run their left-wing stories about how two and two equal four.

but the rumors wont die. and there's got to be a reason for that.

***

the proceding story was a dramatization. but it could have happened. it could be happening now.

i like y'jack. yer good people. yer fighting a pretty frickin difficult fight here with us bastiches and, for the most part, y'keep yer cool. its a good style.

but yer argument is based on TONS of assumption. and, no offense, but... i hardly believe that the universe's greatest conspiracy of all time is going to be uncovered by someone we know from the superman message boards.

im in the forrest. i see the trees. i dunno which one is a pine tree and which one is a palm tree, and i think i have some pretty bad poison oak all over my left thigh ... and its really itchy ... but i can still see the trees. i dont know diddly about'em, but, from the little knowledge i have of them, i can identify them, and tell ya what they're doin (standin).

is there more going on than i know of? obviously -- i dont hear and/or know everything about them. but its a pretty safe bet that they're not part of an evil plant empire (or "shrub" empire ... get it??)

but thats just me -- part of the infrastructure.