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Dave the Wonder Boy:

I wonder if any Americans in December 1941 were saying "Gee, maybe the Imperial Japanese are RIGHT..."

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Dave the Wonder Boy:

It scares me, the lack of will to defend the United States, by some of its citizens, despite the clear rightness of our actions, and the clear source of the threat.

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Jack:

These would be the lines that pissed me off and made me realize that I wasn't conversing with a rational person ... I was conversing with just another goose-stepper. And yes, as a matter of fact, I do use that term quite deliberately. You seem to know your history reasonably well. What color is your shirt these days, Dave? I'm thinking brown.

Excuses. You're nothing but a child trying to make excuses. You're like the mob in an old monster-movie, chasing the monster with torches into the castle, not really caring whether or not the monster has actually done anything. You just want to hurt something, to make yourself feel a little safer. You aren't interested in justice, or even vengeance. You're just interested in a parade. A long, bloody, freedom-ending, kid-killing, bomb-dropping parade.

Meanwhile, the real evil gets away ... and assures you that it'll do everything in its power to keep that bad, nasty monster from you.

I'm embarassed that I was starting to think you were an okay guy, Dave. But I guess I should've known ... after all, look at the general level of intelligence displayed by the people on your side. Is Britney helping your cause, or is she just demonstrating the intellect required to march in rhythm?

Jack,

If you had any evidence beyond name-calling, jackbooted charicatures, and highly speculative interpretation of the facts, I might take your ideas and your insults seriously.

But your opinion is so emotionally skewed, I really can't take you seriously.

You call me a child, but YOU'RE the one resorting to childish namecalling and insults.
I don't know why, of everyone posting in dissent to you here, you singled me out for such personal venom.
But your own tactics more closely resemble " the mob in an old monster-movie, chasing the monster with torches into the castle, not really caring whether or not the monster has actually done anything. You just want to hurt something, to make yourself feel a little safer."

And once again, your mean-spirited personal insults have made your skewed logic abundantly manifest.

And your need to go there, in what is essentially just a discussion of issues, of whether or not there's a conspiracy, makes me think you're probably reacting with anger that I didn't provoke.

[ 07-28-2002, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Dave the Wonder Boy ]