damn you, utley, and your big woids n'fancy auters!

<<Rob, it isn't the case that "whatever science can't prove 'doesnt exist'" but that whatever science can't prove simply hasn't been proved or disproved.>>

but, thats not really true--not on a technical, grammatical basis, anyway. it is or it should be, more specifically, "whatever science can't prove simply hasn't been proved or disproved in the world of science"

<<There are methods for proving that atoms and subatomic particles exist, that the speed of light is a universal constant, that the obloid Earth orbits the sun, etc.>>

sure. now there is. now, science can prove them. but, they were true long before that. and many people had "proof" of their own, or even just "faith" that they were true. some say columbus knew (or hoped, anyway) that the earth was round long before it could be absolutely scientifically proven (which, really, wasn't until satelites spotted our planet from afar)

it is only now that science can prove those things, and thus, they become more "accepted" somehow.

heck, fer all i know, these "scientists" are alchemists. hell, i've never been to the moon, i dunno if its really there're not. for all i know kansas doesnt exist (you ever been there??) science proves and disproves things for science, only. perhaps science is the standard and/or the norm, and thus, it is accepted without question (or without much disapproval), however, im still against this whole "lets wait til science can prove it" bit.

read on, for more details! (and dont forget to drink your ovaltine!)

<<Thus far, there is no conclusive proof that ghosts exist, that a cryptozoan inhabits Loch Ness, that our world is being visited by extraterrestrial beings in saucer-shaped vessels.>>

agreed. and, i make no personal claim that any of'em are really there.

but, there's also no real scientific proof of the emotion of love (chemicals, my ass!). there's no real scientific proof of a god (or the god).

so are they not true? are you going to tell the christian "army," 1 billion people strong, that science can't prove their god yet, so, just "hold on a minute" till they get their paperwork square?