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Originally posted by Doc Demian:
Maybe there's more than one kind of tyranny.

I don't follow the logic of the government buy-back, Dave.

So the government in Australia took the semiauto longarms from the citizens. Which citizens? The law-abiding ones holding firearms licences.

How many violent criminals with illegally-held firearms went and handed theirs in? I'll have a guess... somewhere between zero and sweet F.A.

Given guns are pretty hard to get in the first place, there aren't too many criminals with high powered weapons. Sawn-off shotguns are about as worse as it gets.

Most guns come into the possession of criminals from being stolen from homes (same in the US, I recall).

So we handed in our guns, so if someone breaks into my house and steals my hunting rifle (not that I had one), it doesn't end up being used to shoot some poor bastard in a hold-up.

And what are "law abiding citizens" doing with firearms anyway? Cars can kill people, but they're designed for transportation. Poison kills people, but its designed to kill weeds or clean your oven or whatever. Guns have one lethal purpose only - to kill people. If you have a gun, you have an intent to kill someone, and as far as I'm concerned, you're law abiding by the mere technicality that you haven't done it yet.

Your only excuse in the US is that you have a gun culture, almost a domestic arms build-up, where you don't feel safe unless you've got more firepower than the guy you think might burgle you.

And as for tyranny...you really think your guns are going to repel invaders or overthrow a tyrannous US government in this day and age?!?