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Originally posted by Nowhereman:
Paul has had lots of huge chart hits,tours the world selling millions of tickets at extortionate prices & has married a gorgeous young model!

Ringo has voiced a kiddie programme,has starred in shitty films,cant sing & is lucky if he can headline his local pub!

So who has demeaned themselves exactly?

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Though McCartney is the most successful ex-Beatle, Ringo actually had more solo US Top ten hits.

At any rate, to answer Gob's original question, I do think we're better off that the Beatles broke up. I mean, sure, they would've produced a bunch more classic albums, but would we really wanna live in a world without the Traveling Wilburys? I sure wouldn't!

I also agree with FNB that Ringo was a good drummer.

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Oh & the fact your argument is that The Who are better cause they are rock & the Beatles are pop his laughable to say the least.
Does this mean that Metallica is better than Frank Sinatra or that Faster Pussycat is better than Elton John?
By your logic it would seem so!

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Paul is a pathetic old man who acts like he's desparate to be his 25 year old self.
Ringo and George? Well, they're Ringo and George.
John did a lot of great stuff and never seemed to be doing it for the money. He retired for 5 years to raise his son because he fucked up on his first kid.

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I can't find Paul's penis online anywhere (and I've looked). What's he hiding?

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And John had jungle fever.

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Love... Love... Love...
Love... Love... Love...
Love... Love... Love...

There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Love... Love... Love...
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Love... Love... Love...
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game.
It's ee-ea-sy.

Nothing you can make that can't be made.
Love... Love... Love...
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Love... Love... Love...
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in time.
It's ee-ea-sy.

All you need is love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love... love.
Love is all you need.

All you need is love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love... love.
Love is all you need.

Nothing you can know that isn't known.
Love... Love... Love...
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
Love... Love... Love...
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
It's ee-ea-sy.

All you need is love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love... love.
Love is all you need.

All you need is love. All together, now!
All you need is love. Everybody!
All you need is love, love.
Love is all you need. Love is all you need.

Yee-hai!
Oh yeah!
She loves you, yeah yeah yeah.
She loves you, yeah yeah yeah.

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One, two, three, four - Can I have a little more?
Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten - I love you
A, B, C, D - Can I bring my friend to tea?
E, F, G, H, I, J - I love you

Bom bom bom bom-pa bom
Sail the ship bom-pa bom
Chop the tree bom-pa bom
Skip the rope bom-pa bom
Look at me

All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now

Black, white, green, red - Can I take my friend to bed?
Pink, brown, yellow, orange and blue - I love you

All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now
All together now, all toghether now

Bom bom bom bom-pa bom
Sail the ship bom-pa bom
Chop the tree bom-pa bom
Skip the rope bom-pa bom
Look at me

All together now, all toghether now...

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What would you think if I sang out of tune?
Would you stand up and walk out on me.
Lend me your ears and I’ll sing you a song,
And I’ll try not to sing out of key.
I get by with a little help from my friends,
I get high with a little help from my friends,
Going to try with a little help from my friends.

What do I do when my love is away?
Does it worry you to be alone?
How do I feel by the end of the day?
Are you sad because you’re on your own?
No I get by with a little help from my friends,

Do you need anybody?
I need somebody to love.
Could it be anybody?
I want somebody to love.

Would you believe in a love at first sight?
Yes, I’m certain that it happens all the time.
What do you see when you turn out the light?
I can’t tell you, but I know it’s mine.
Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends.

Do you need anybody?
I just need someone to love.
Could it be anybody?
I want somebody to love.
I get by with a little help from my friends,
Yes I get by with a little help from my friends,
With a little help from my frie-ee-ee-ee-eends.

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Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum

3,6,9 Damn she fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low,Get Low
To the window(To the window), to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all you bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)

Shortie crunk so fresh so clean
can she fuck that question been harassing me, in the mind
this bitch is fine
I done came to the club about 50 damn times
now can I play with yo panty line
the club owner said I need to calm down
security guard go to sweating me now
We got drunk then a motherfucker threaten me now

She getting crunk in the club I mine she work it
Then I like to see the female twerking
taking the clothes off BUCKEY naked
ATL. Hoe don’t disrespect it
Pa pop yo pussy like this
cause yin yang twins in this B.I.ich
Lil Jon and the East side boys wit me
and we all like to see Ass and tities
Now bring yo ass over here hoe
and let me see you get low if you want this Thug
Now take it to the floor (to the floor) and if yo ass wanta act you can keep
yo ass where you at

3,6,9 Damn she fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low,Get Low
To the window (to the window), to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all you bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)

Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Turn dat ass (EH!) shake it fast ya (EH!)
Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya (EH!)
Turn dat ass (EH!) shake it fast ya (EH!)
Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya (EH!)
Now back, back, back it up (Ahhh!)
a back, back, back it up (Ahhh!)
a back,(Ahhh!) back, back it up (Ahhh!)
a back,(Ahhh!) back, back it up (Ahhh!)
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, yeaaaa
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, yeaaaa
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, yeaaaa
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, wiggle wit it

3,6,9 Damn she fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all you bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)

Now give me my doe back and go get ya friend
Stupid bitch standing there while I’m drinking my hen
Steady looking at me Still asking questions
Times up nigga pass me another contestant
Hoe move to the left if you ain’t bout 50th
Done talk through 3 or 4 songs already
looking at a nigga with yo palm all out
bitch I ain’t even seen you dance
Twerk something baby work something baby
Pop yo pussy on the pole do yo thang baby
Slide down dat bitch
wit yo little bit then stop
Get back on the floor catch yo balance then drop
Now bring it back up clap yo ass like hands
I just wanna see yo ass drity dance
ying yang we done again
And put it on the map like annnnn

3,6,9 Damn she fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low,Get Low
To the window (to the window), to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all you bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)

Got dam (Got dam) ya y’all twreking a little bit ladies
But ya got to twrek it alittle harder then dat(a little harder)
now right now I need all the ladies dat know they look good tonite
(where my sexy ladies) we want y’all to do this shit like this
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)

3,6,9 Damn she fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low, Get Low,Get Low
To the window (to the window), to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all you bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)
To all skeet skeet motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)


Brrrum dum dum dum---dum da dum da da da dum
Brrrum dum dum dum---dum da dum da da da dum---Brrrrrrrmmmmm
Brrrum dum dum dum---dum da dum da da da dum---Brrrrrrrmmmmm
Brrrum dum dum dum---dum da dum da da da dum

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Inevitably, bsams wins.

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Didn't Paul write that song that goes
"Hands across the water"

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"...water"

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Dunno.

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Yes, he did.

Just another reason to say he sucks.

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Getting back to the original question.
I think a re-union would of been stupid, and they knew it. And they didn't do it.
Definitely better that they did split up, added to the mystique (or whatever)

Note those that got back together:
1.) Rolling Stones
2.) Kiss (I did go to the New Year's show and it was great)
3.) Any 80's band
4.) Skynard
the list goes on.
I think that 25% of those that get back together do a good job of it. The rest are pathetic, you tell me which are which.

I'm hard pressed to find two song writers that wrote so many amazing varying songs. Maybe the Bee Gees (more than two, whatever).

But they did go in different directions afterwards, Lennon became a martyr not only because of his beatles status but also his ideals, his imagination, and his ability to take acid over 1000 times.
Mccartney did Wings, and what? Triumph? 3 bassists, I cant remember....

The White Album holds a lot of meaning (even though it is quite meaningless) especially because they broke up.

Same thing with Magical Mystery Tour, etc...
A re-union would of made everything more of a hoax. And we get enough of that these days in the music world.

Whoa! Stop typing....

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We're so sorry...
Uncle Albert...
We're so sorry if we caused you any pain...
We're so sorry...
Uncle Albert...
But there's no one left at home and I believe I'm gonna rain.

We're so sorry but we haven't heard a thing all day.
We're so Sorry...
Uncle Albert...
But if anything should happen we'll be sure to give a ring.

(We're SO sorry
Uncle Albert
But we haven't done a bloody thing all day
We're SO sorry
Uncle Albert
But the kettle's on the boil and we're so easily called away)


Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands
Across the water

(...water...)
Heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads
Across the sky.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands
across the water

(...water...)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeads
across the sky


Admiral Halsey notified me
He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea
I had another look and I had a cup of tea
And butter pie
(The butter wouldn't melt so I put it in the pie)

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands
Across the water

(...water...)
Heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads
Across the sky.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands
across the water

(...water...)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeads
across the sky


Live a little be a gypsy, get around,
(...get around...)
Get your feet up off the ground,
Live a little, get around.
Live a little be a gypsy, get around
(...get around...)
Get your feet up off the ground,
Live a little, get around.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands
Across the water

(...water...)
Heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads
Across the sky.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands
across the water

(...water...)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeads
across the sky

Ooo------------Ooo-------------

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In the middle of the night,
In the middle of the night I call your name,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
My love will turn you on,

In the middle of the bath,
In the middle of the bath I call your name,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
My love will turn you on,

In the middle of a shave,
In the middle of a shave I call your name,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
My love will turn you on,

In the middle of a dream,
In the middle of a dream I call your name,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
My love will turn you on,

In the middle of a cloud,
In the middle of a cload I call your name,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
My love will turn you on,

Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko,
Oh Yoko.

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As soon as you're born they make you feel small...
By giving you no time instead of it all...
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all.
A working class hero is something to be.

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school...
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool...
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules.
A working class hero is something to be.

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty-odd years...
Then they expect you to pick a career...
When you can't really function you're so full of fear.
A working class hero is something to be.

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV...
And you think you're so clever and classless and free...
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see.
A working class hero is something to be.

There's room at the top they're telling you still...
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill...
If you want to be like the folks on the hill.
A working class hero is something to be.
If you want to be a hero just follow me.
If you want to be a hero, well just follow me.

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Nowhereman man said: "Oh & the fact your argument is that The Who are better cause they are rock & the Beatles are pop his laughable to say the least."

I never said they were better because they rocked harder. I said I *preferred* them cos they rocked harder.

I also said that the Beatles didn't invent every subtle twist and bend in the rock and roll lexicon. Others were doing some things in a rock context before the Fabs.

That's all.

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The Beatles's greatest contributions to rock actually come in the production and advertising of albums. They were the first to record the music and vocals as well as any additional background music, like a string section, seperately and mix them together later. Before, it all had to be done at one time. They also pioneered music videos. Since they were in so much demand for TV programs world-wide, they made these little films set to their music to send out to shows they could not attend.

As far as a reunion, I know that John and Paul had been considering it after Lorne Michaels of SNL made the running joke of having them reunite on his show to the extent of having George Harrison on. I think it would have worked. Just one night where they play everyone's favorite tunes, and they go back to their respective careers afterwards would have been perfect. Look at the Simon & Garfunkle reunion in Central Park back in the early 80's. It was one night of the two of them just jammin' out their old tunes to a shitload of fans. After the show, they went their own way. The show neither bolstered or hurt either man's career. They were in the same situations as they were when they came in.

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My opinion...had Lennon lived, they would have reunited eventually. The money would simply have been too great for them to pass up, especially considering that none of them were big chart busters on their own in the 80s.

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McCartney was a chart buster in the 80s.

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And Im sure Lennon would have continued to pump out the tunes.

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quote:
Originally posted by britneyspearsatemyshorts:
And Im sure Lennon would have continued to pump out the tunes.

I am the Walrus

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Shut the fuck up, Donny! V.I. Lenin! Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!

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I don't get it. is that from a movie?

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That's fucking exactly what happened,
Dude! That makes me fucking SICK!

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Nihilists...fuck me...

I mean, say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos...

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"McCartney was a chart buster in the 80s."

His number of big hits in the 80s was far less than the number he had in the 70s.

And about the reunion...I doubt they would have stayed together, but I could them reuiniting for a one-off thing, like an album or a concert. The money would have been fucking huge...

Jim

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...you're not intersted in sex?

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And Jim isn't cynical.

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I'm generally against bands getting back together without key members. For instance The Doors are currently touring with two of their founder members and Ian Astbury of 'The Cult' replacing Jim Morrison on vocals. In a magazine interview Ian said he was helping Ray (keyboards) & Robbie (guitar) to play their songs live one last time. That's fair enough but what they're doing is nostalgia. There's no substance to it - they're playing the Doors songs stripped of their meaning and context.

The other day, my friend Matt and I were listening to his Talking Heads box set. There were a couple of tracks that the band recorded towards the end of their career - 'Sax & Violins' & 'Lifetime Piling Up' that didn't make it onto albums and they were fucking great. I made Matt play 'Lifetime piling up' three times in a row because I thought it so brilliant.

I said it was a shame that the band had split up when they were still recording near the peak of their powers and that they were unlikely to get back together.

I remember David Byrne (Former lead singer of Talking Heads) saying that being asked when you're going to get back with your old band is a bit like being asked when you're going to get back with you're first girlfriend.

Matt reminded me that Talking Heads had reformed as The Heads, minus David Byrne, and made a terrible album with guest vocalists. Byrne was such a focal point in that group that it seems madness that the other three members would try to carry on without him.

I'm only really into bands reforming if all the key members are able and willing to get back together and they still have something to say.

Sad man that I am, I was really pleased when Donald Fagen & Walter Becker reformed Steely Dan because they've put out two great albums that stand alongside the seven albums they'd released a couple of decades earlier.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Jackson:
"McCartney was a chart buster in the 80s."

His number of big hits in the 80s was far less than the number he had in the 70s.

And about the reunion...I doubt they would have stayed together, but I could them reuiniting for a one-off thing, like an album or a concert. The money would have been fucking huge...

Jim

Do you know how many he hits he had outside the USA?
Do you know how much money he makes just from concert tickets & albums sales!

Lemme tell ya something about the music industry,most artists couldnt give a flying fuck if they sell loads of singles as long as they sell loads of albums & concert tickets cause thats where they make their money!
Singles do not make that much profit for artists they are just marketing tools to sell albums & put bums on seats in concert halls!

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Well, America's the only market that matters anyway... :lol:

I'm still saying that I think they would have reunited at least once, had Lennon lived.

Call me a pretentious cunt of whatever you want, cos it really doesn't matter. I'm just giving my opinion. You're entitled to disagree with it. I really don't care.

I'm sure you don't like pretentious cunts. You probably don't like regular ones either. I'll bet you never get all that close to cunts of any kind, do you? Nah, you're a Nowhereman. No cunny for you.

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pretentious cunt.

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And Jim isn't cynical.

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Originally posted by Jim Jackson:
Well, America's the only market that matters anyway... :lol:

I'm still saying that I think they would have reunited at least once, had Lennon lived.

Call me a pretentious cunt of whatever you want, cos it really doesn't matter. I'm just giving my opinion. You're entitled to disagree with it. I really don't care.

I'm sure you don't like pretentious cunts. You probably don't like regular ones either. I'll bet you never get all that close to cunts of any kind, do you? Nah, you're a Nowhereman. No cunny for you.

JJ

Ok try this,Led Zeppelin are one of the biggest rock bands ever,they never had any hit singles & three of the four members are still alive yet despite a one off reunion in the 80s for a charity gig,they have not reformed!
Yes Jimmy & Robert have worked together but Jimmy,Robert & John Paul point blank refuse to reform Zeppelin!
Why do you think a pair of millionaires like Lennon & McCartney would?

For my money if Lennon had survived he would have grown even more distant from Paul than he already was as Yoko Ono pulled all his strings!
Lennon lost the plot when he married that mad bint!

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Lemme fight this war on both fronts...

The Beatles would've reformed... at least once. Be it for charity, greed, whatever. Rememnber, three of 'em reformed and laid down tracks over John's vocals in '94 for Anthology... who's to say if Lennon had lived, it wouldn't have been a full band reunion for Anthology?

And for the other front... all bands reform. It's inevitable. No matter how integral a part of the band dies, all bands reform.

Queen is in the process of recording new material. Freddie Mercury was Queen. Yet, the remaining members are reuniting with a new lead singer as Queen.

Lynyrd Skynyrd lost half the band in 1977, including the voice of Skynyrd, Ronnie Van Zandt, yet they still continue on today with (questionable) replacements.

The Allman Brothers lost half the Brothers (Well, Duane Allman and Berry Oakley), but kept going. However, this was a good thing,because the 90s version of the Allmans gave us Gov't Mule.

Kiss, who swore the make-up (and Ace and Peter)was left in the 80s, reunited in 1996 for big money, joe!

Greed overrides all. And believe me, if someone came up with enough money, Plant, Page, and Jones would be on the road calling themselves Led Zeppelin faster than you could say "Sellout".

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For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!

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also FNB it should be noted the rest of the Beatles returned to do a tribute for John there is a big leap for doing a tribute to a dead friend and actually reuniting when you have creative obstacles. i think the beatles are one of the few bands that gave less of a shit about $ (as they are all set for life anyways) than the creative process....

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