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2003-12-15 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by britneyspearsatemyshorts:
also FNB it should be noted the rest of the Beatles returned to do a tribute for John there is a big leap for doing a tribute to a dead friend and actually reuniting when you have creative obstacles. i think the beatles are one of the few bands that gave less of a shit about $ (as they are all set for life anyways) than the creative process....
Who was in the black pajamas?
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#24620
2003-12-15 12:31 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Nowhereman:
For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!
I'm still holding out for an I Know Mike Neumann comeback tour... ![[sad]](images/icons/frown.gif)
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#24621
2003-12-15 9:43 AM
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Also I'd like to point out that Skynyrd & Kiss didnt reform as they never split.
Yes Kiss went back to older members & make up but to reform they woulda had to have split in the first place,kinda like when Ozzy or Dio rejoined Sabbath!
As bsams said,I dont for a second believe money would have been a motivation for a Beatles reunion as they had plenty of that,the big stumbling block was John & Paul with Ono making sure the rift was maintained and pushed further!
Both George & Ringo worked with both guys while all four were alive,but John & Paul still maintained their distance.
Paul,George & Ringo worked together on Free as a bird over Lennons vocals but I'm not so sure Lennon would have done the same had it been Paul who was killed!
I am not saying Ono didnt love John but she did everything she could to keep his feud with Paul alive & since John has died,she has sold off his possessions like they have no sentimental meaning to her at all!
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#24622
2003-12-15 10:21 AM
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Yoko Ono is the antichrist.
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#24623
2003-12-15 10:54 AM
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"Why do you think a pair of millionaires like Lennon & McCartney would?"
:lol:
Because rich people want to be even more rich!
Hell, you can argue Lennon sold out a bit in 1980 when he recorded his songs for DOUBLE FANTASY. Pure pop songs with some interesting lyrics. Where was his edge then? You know what I think...Lennon had lost his edge. He'd grown into being a husband and father.
Also, given how the Rolling Stones have "continued," the rivalry between the Stones and Beatles would have added pressure. Had Lennon lived, they would have joined up, at least once, for a big payday. And maybe even they would have done a little art, too.
Jim
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#24624
2003-12-15 7:58 PM
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Originally posted by First National Bastard:
Queen is in the process of recording new material. Freddie Mercury was Queen. Yet, the remaining members are reuniting with a new lead singer as Queen.
...that's kinda cool...
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#24625
2003-12-15 7:59 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by Nowhereman:
For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!
I'm still holding out for an I Know Mike Newman comeback tour...
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#24626
2003-12-15 8:05 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Jackson:
Because rich people want to be even more rich!
And Jim isn't cynical.
Random question, Jim: how many top singles did Pink Floyd have?
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2003-12-15 9:51 PM
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Led Zeppelin,Pink Floyd,Black Sabbath,just three bands full of millionaires who didnt have "hits".
They also happen to be three of the biggest & most influencial rock artists of all time!
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#24628
2003-12-15 9:58 PM
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We'll never see the Police back together...
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#24629
2003-12-16 10:39 AM
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Nowhereman stated wrongly again: "Also I'd like to point out that Skynyrd & Kiss didnt reform as they never split."
Skynyrd didn't split in the formal sense, but in the literal sense, they did. After the plane crash, several LS members reunited as the Rossington-Collins Band. At that point, LS was over. So what's been touring the states etc. since the early 90s is a reuinted Skynyrd.
Jim
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#24630
2003-12-16 10:40 AM
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"Random question, Jim: how many top singles did Pink Floyd have?"
Why are you addressing this to me? If you care that much, go look it up. I do not care.
JJ
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#24631
2003-12-16 10:42 AM
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"Led Zeppelin,Pink Floyd,Black Sabbath,just three bands full of millionaires who didnt have "hits".
They also happen to be three of the biggest & most influencial rock artists of all time!"
Sure, I have no argument with this. You could put the Who in there, too, as they really never had that many top 40 hits. Or Yes, too.
Jim
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#24632
2003-12-17 4:39 AM
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2003-12-16 6:02 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Jackson:
"Led Zeppelin,Pink Floyd,Black Sabbath,just three bands full of millionaires who didnt have "hits".
They also happen to be three of the biggest & most influencial rock artists of all time!"
Sure, I have no argument with this. You could put the Who in there, too, as they really never had that many top 40 hits. Or Yes, too.
Jim
Yes and the Who never influenced anything......
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#24634
2003-12-16 6:12 PM
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The sky is blue. Go ahead, disagree with me. That's what you're here for.
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#24635
2003-12-16 6:15 PM
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Nope, I am here to spread the truth to the ignorant!
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#24636
2003-12-16 6:16 PM
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Riiiiight. Don't worry, your secret's safe with me.
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2003-12-16 6:26 PM
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dont worry, everyone knows.....I am a message board god!
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#24638
2003-12-16 6:32 PM
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You'll forgive me if I choose to worship at another church.
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#24639
2003-12-16 6:37 PM
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everytime you post here you kneel at my altar!
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#24640
2003-12-16 6:48 PM
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Perhaps, but I never tithe.
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2003-12-16 7:08 PM
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2003-12-16 8:17 PM
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I thought you threw those ol' pictures away?
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#24643
2003-12-16 11:48 PM
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I bought the Beatles Anthology when it came out on DVD recently.
I’ve watched it several times.
It’s really a wonderful time piece. It doesn’t seem that long ago and then at the same time, it almost seems like a myth now.
I saw them on the Sullivan show in 64 and still remember my family laughing at the hair.
Ten years later, EVERYONE looked like the Beatles.
I think they were a historical phenomenon, akin to a musical renaissance, and what they are or were (just a rock and roll band) transcended what they became.
They are GIANT cultural icons that we measure time against.
They were way bigger and meant way more than their music.
That said, I think the Beatles would have gotten together again if only… But there is no Beatles without John Lennon.
BTW if you’ve never seen Anthology you should.
George Harrison comes off best, hands down.
Goo goo ga joob.
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#24644
2003-12-17 5:48 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by Nowhereman:
For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!
I'm still holding out for an I Know Mike Newman comeback tour...
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#24645
2003-12-17 8:07 AM
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I think we should all just shut up and listen to Tool.
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#24646
2003-12-17 9:08 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Nobody:
I think we should all just shut up and listen to Tool.
If you want us to listen to Jim, then OK. ![[wink]](images/icons/wink.gif)
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#24647
2003-12-17 11:03 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Jackson:
Nowhereman stated wrongly again: "Also I'd like to point out that Skynyrd & Kiss didnt reform as they never split."
Skynyrd didn't split in the formal sense, but in the literal sense, they did. After the plane crash, several LS members reunited as the Rossington-Collins Band. At that point, LS was over. So what's been touring the states etc. since the early 90s is a reuinted Skynyrd.
Jim
Actually once again,you are wrong!
There was never a split,the band was merely on hiatus while they decided what they were gonna do.
The fact is that they worked as Skynyrd in the 80s as well!
They had to decide whether it was disrespectful to continue & needed time to think about what was best!
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2003-12-17 11:05 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Jackson:
"Led Zeppelin,Pink Floyd,Black Sabbath,just three bands full of millionaires who didnt have "hits".
They also happen to be three of the biggest & most influencial rock artists of all time!"
Sure, I have no argument with this. You could put the Who in there, too, as they really never had that many top 40 hits. Or Yes, too.
Jim
Once again you are talking about the USA!
The Who are a British band & had many hit singles in their native country!
Zep,Sabbath & Floyd are also British but did not actually release singles for most of their careers!
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#24649
2003-12-17 11:33 AM
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"The fact is that they worked as Skynyrd in the 80s as well!
They had to decide whether it was disrespectful to continue & needed time to think about what was best!"
Yeah, and once they did, they decided that Skynyrd was over. Hence the Rossington-Collins Band.
Jim
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#24650
2003-12-17 12:16 PM
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Actually, it was more of the legal red tape that kept them from being Skynard right off the bat. Van Zant's widow inherited his rights to the music and band title after his death. They spent a lot of time working out how the band would continue, if they did. This led to the 3 man clause. At least three of the original members must be in the band for them to record and tour under that name. IIRC, that rule isn't being enforced since only two original memebers now remain; yet, the band is still touring.
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#24651
2003-12-17 12:34 PM
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A legal split, a moral split, call it what you will. Lynyrd Skynrd did not exist until they all reached agreement to carry on the name in the late 80s.
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#24652
2003-12-17 2:49 PM
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There is a difference between a splitting the band & the band being on hiatus!
There was never any intention of the band not reforming,it just all had to be worked out!
Thats why its not a reunion,but a reformation,thats the big difference between them & a band like The Sex Pistols or The Monkees!
Other examples are Motley Crue & Bon Jovi.
At points in their career the band members went their seperate ways without actually splitting the band,they just put the band on hiatus while they did other things!
It cant possibly be a reunion if the band never actually split!
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#24653
2003-12-18 4:15 AM
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From www.skynyrd.com"The crash, which killed Ronnie VanZant, guitarist Steve Gaines, vocalist Cassie Gaines, road manager Dean Kilpatrick and seriously injured the rest of the band and crew, shattered Skynyrd's fast rising star as it cut a 500 foot path through the swamp. Lynyrd Skynyrd had met a sudden, tragic end." Notice it says, sadly, "tragic end," not "hiatus." Also, in an attempt to avoid Skynyrd comparisons, Rossington chose (his now wife) Dale Krantz as the R-C Band's vocalist. Now, you tell me...if they were just on hiatus as Skynyrd, why worry so much about vocal comparisons? Skynyrd originally ended in the Mississippi swamp. They reformed after the end of Skynyrd with Van Zandt's widow's approval provided that at least 3 original members had to be in the band to keep the Skynyrd name. With Leon Wilkeson's death, the question of the maintenance of the Skynyrd name is in question, since only Rossington and Billy Powell remain from the orignal band.
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2003-12-18 4:40 AM
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Well lets see,maybe just maybe they wanted the RC band to sound different to Skynyrd cause it was a different band!
If you listen to any band that is a side project of another band,the solo stuff should sound different!
Jon Bon Jovis stuff (with the exception of the Balze of glory CD) sounds vastly different to Bon Jovi the band!
Nikki Sixx has produced stuff outside Motley Crue that sounds nothing like Motley Crue.
The whole point being if you wanna sound like "Band X" why bother creating "Band Y",you might as well just stick to creating stuff for "Band X".
RC was a side project until matters could be sorted.
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#24655
2003-12-19 9:02 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by Nowhereman:
For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!
I'm still holding out for an I Know Mike NEWMAN comeback tour...
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2003-12-19 9:04 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by Nowhereman:
For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!
I'm still holding out for an I Know Mike NEWMAN comeback tour...
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#24657
2003-12-20 10:14 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by britneyspearsatemyshorts:
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Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
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Originally posted by Nowhereman:
For every band that has reformed there are ten that havent!
I'm still holding out for an I Know Mike NEWMAN comeback tour...
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See,that pic scared you all off,even Jim is obviously worried!
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