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whomod said:
Maybe you should clarify. Do you mean LEGAL immigrants or ILLEGAL ones?

I want to know if you've broken the law and hired illegal aliens. If it isn't asking too much, did they earn at least the minimum wage?

What i'm getting at is that perhaps this amnesty, yes amnesty, wouldn't have happened if business owners wouldn't have flouted the law just as openly as the illegal immigrants themselves do. Remember, without waiting, available and plentiful low wage jobs, there would be no illegal influx.

Which is why i'm going to go out and say this isn't a REP or DEM issue. If it was, then Pete Wilson and a host of other Republican California Governors and Presidents would have done something about the open borders a long time ago. This is an economic problem. America loves low wage menial workers. In fact they NEED low wage menial workers. It's why you aern't paying 3X as much for your lettuce. It's only during election years that politicians who know they have absolutely no intention of stopping illegal immigration try to use immigrants as a wedge issue to incite white voters. As was the case in California during Prop 187.

I'm against illegal immigration myself in theory BUT when these wedge issues turn up, they are presented in such a mean spirited way that it leaves no other conclusion than to see that there is no distinction being made in most peoples minds to illegal immigrants and to latinos who may be legal, US citizens or have been here for centuries even before the white man. It usually degenerates to a " i hate the brown man" referendum.

So i don't know what to think of Bush's proposal actually. It's certainly realistic but it's also rewarding flouting the law. It's adressing economic reality but it's also depressing wages for everyone else. It's geared to appeal to latino voters but it's sure to alienate white ones. As I said, tricky.



Heh. I mean Legal and Illegal......and no I haven't broken the law and everyone that works for us makes a very good living. However, with that said.......it's not very hard to purchase phony documents.....so whether I or any restaurant owner has been given fake documents well I don't know.......but what I do know is that everyone that works for us is a solid tax-paying worker. You're right this isn't a Republican or Democratic question........it is the right thing to do. If someone wants to work and pay taxes and be a good citizen....we should let them.

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