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PenWing said:

That's no excuse. We have higher reasoning skills. We are not animals, although there are people who make us think otherwise with their actions against humanity.

I don't know why you bothered to ask the question if your mind is already made up. There is nothing I can say to you.

However, if you would actually be willing to hand over a baby to be tortured so that the rest of the world can be cured of disease, and can aquire technology far beyond our own capabilities, then you are no better then the fucker who straps a bomb to himself (or herself), walks into a cafe full of teenagers, or onto a bus, and blows himself, and every else, up.

No sir. No better than that at all.



Lemme see if I can still do this. It's been a while since I've done anything but dick and fart jokes on the interweb.

First off... why I bothered to ask the question... To see what the reactions of others are. Who would be as warped as I am? Who would champion the "Every sperm is sacred" position, and so on. For some reason, I'm interested in seeing what the reactions of others are to questions like this. Being a pessimist, and of the opinion that humanity is a virus with shoes (thanks, Bill), I'm curious to see if there's still people out there who believe that life is sacred when the majority of the population is actually worse than I am.

Now, we have higher reasoning skills. We are not animals. By the merest of technicalities. Take one of these wars the Republicans love to get us into. In the heat of battle, will a man rationalize what he is doing? Will he use those vaunted "higher reasoning skills" to try and come to a peaceful, nonviolent solution with the other side? No. He will pretty much have on instinct... KILL!. In fact, I vould venture to reason that if you were to strip a man of all his creature comforts, no more supermarkets or TV or pornography, throw him into the wild to fend for himself, he would become just another animal, surviving on his instincts alone. These higher reasoning skills, the superior intellect is pretty much a facade. At the core of all humans is a base animalistic urge, and if pushed far enough, a man will throw away his years of indoctrination and become an animal. Basically what I'm trying to say is that we're all just animals in fancy clothing... a bunch of poodles in sweaters, ifuwheel. We're all still driven by the same instincts as animals... fuck, eat, kill, survive... and any amount of rationalization you throw on top of that means nothing. Every action taken by man is taken for one of those animalistic goals, no matter how much we try and couch it in humanistic bullshit.

Now, as to the last part of your sentence... there is a big difference between handing over one mewling infant to be tortured for the greater good of humanity and walking into a place with a bomb strapped onto oneself.

Now, I can see where you're coming from... the zealots who blow themselves up usually believe they're doing it for a greater good... one of those invisible people in the sky whom people debate on his dick size, is usually the one the zealots are doing it for. However, there is no tangible evidence of the existance of the invisible people, and there is no tangible evidence of what gifts would be bestowed upon someone or some group who blew up a bunch of teenagers in the name of Jebus. It's all hypothetical. However, if said aliens were real, and had the technology to wipe out disease and war and all the problems of mankind, one useless infant would be a small price to pay to gain peace and health and harmony. Those would be tangible results! And, if you must feel better about it... it's only a baby... odds are it wouldn't survive much torture. It would die quickly enough.

And to further extend this hypothetical situation... look at the advancements of the past 300 years. No one man has even made a dent in ending war, or famine, or curing mankind's diseases. And gains this one infant would've made for humanity would most likely be rendered moot by the gift of said baby-torturing aliens.

When it comes down to it, one baby is a cheap price to pay for the greater good. Hell, we could even use our higher reasoning skills to build a statue to the tyke... make it a martyr. Start a religion to it... say it's dick was bigger than some other martyr's. Because that is the nature of humanity.

Last edited by First National Bastard; 2004-01-30 2:58 PM.
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