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Hmmm... would the team accept such a possible security risk?

(We already know that the answer is "YES" since it's been done before, but I wonder...)




Just another thing for Mason to berate the team about.

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(A) Forgot to switch over to the Ozzy-ID for my latest story post. I do so hate disorder. Sorry.

(B) My first attempt at writing Mason Templar. I had Brian Blessed in mind the entire time. "WING-BOMBERS....DIVE!!"

(C) Phil was, once again, a victim. Sorry. I'll try and move away from that.


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L.O.L.!

BTW, you anticipated something I was thinking of doing. Later on I'm planning on showing Erasmus catching and eating his prey (which, if he was a normal sized pigeon-hawk would be small rodents). At a size like this, he has to subsist on animals the size of dogs or as large as cattle in order to keep from starving. He won't eat people, though -- it's not that he doesn't find them tasty, it's just that he's trained not to.

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It was funny.

Do it again and I'll castrate you with a cheese grater.

So yeah, now that you've started the turd - err, ball - rolling, you can do the honors of writing any further Phil posts pertaining to his going on the mission.

Pertaining to that, there's a PM for you.


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Good stuff so far. Haven't come up with anything to add just yet, but I have ideas of stuff to do once the mission begins.

Assuming, Danny, Raptor, and Banshee fly, how the hell are nine people gonna fit on that hawk? Talk about economy class.


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I've thought a bit about it -- Erasmus's body is the size of an elephant (its wingspan is obviously much, much proportionally wider), so a makeshift harness could be constructed in which everyone could ride if need be -- they wouldn't be able to hold on otherwise. I don't imagine that the entire team will have to ride on Erasmus's back more than once or twice in this story (plus, half the team can probably ride on Drax's back). Alternatively, Erasmus could carry a large "basket"-like object in which some of the team could ride. Of course, they'd have to be the most bravest in the team. I know I wouldn't want to be anywhere BENEATH that bloody hawk.

BTW, Dan and Mxy: Sorry about my last post. I think I had a little bit too much fun with it. Think of it as sort of the "hazing" of the newbie. At least I didn't make Phil the victim again.

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You know, as your secretary and resident Animal Sciences major, I really must object to the use of an impossibly disproportionate bird...oh wait, my main character is a girl with wings. Okay, ignore statement.

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Would it completely kill anyone if I were to write Grissom out of the main story sometime soon? I'd like to write a one-shot with him over at FRINGE (or here) that I wouldn't be able to do if he were wit the team. Leslie could be a temporary replacement while he took off, so it wouldn't be like the team was without a specialist in his particular area.

That, and Phil's arrival pretty much obliterated any niche my character may've had...

But, yeah... anyone have any plans that are vitally important for Grissom to be a part of, or can he be written out?

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None of the support staff will be used in this story, Chewy, so there's absolutely no problem with you removing Grissom. The team is going to be in another dimension and completely out of contact with the world, so unless the support staff are seen in a separate thread which deals with what they do during the team's absence, there's absolutely no call to use them once the team has left.

You're free to write Grissom out of the picture "on panel" in the story, but it's really not necessary and I wouldn't recommend it since it hasn't anything to do with the story. We'll just make sure not to refer to him in the present tense.

In effect he's already "written out" since he hasn't been a member of the team since issue #13. It's best if you write him leaving the support staff in your story rather than the team story, since we're trying to get away from this kind of "off-topic" thing in the main stories.

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(A) Hate to see Griss go. Bloody fun to write, that guy is.

(B) I would imagine Jym will be staying home on this trip? Or, is he going? I was going to say that, if technology has difficulties in this "magical dimension" (and you all know how much I LOVE "magic"....), then, this would be the appropriate time for him to slide into Grissom's position. Or him and Leslie. Whatever.

(C) Being that it is technology that keeps Epicenter's powers under control, how will this non-tech dimension affect his effectiveness? Just curious.

(D) Why have I all of a sudden begun listing my Talk Thread posts in alphabetical order?

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(C) Being that it is technology that keeps Epicenter's powers under control, how will this non-tech dimension affect his effectiveness? Just curious.



That's up to how we write it since there hasn't been any indication that technology can't work there. The people have just pretty much stopped in their advancement, much like Europe did during the Dark Ages and the Native Americans did.


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I do like the character's powers, though. Immediately reminds me of Major Disaster. I hope to see his characterisation fleshed out by yourself, though. Is he a militaristic-minded person who is very self-disciplined and usually on the serious side? Or is he somewhat laid back with a sense of humour? Anything would help. Which country is he from, by the way?




I don't have any of those answers. I'll figure that out as I write.
I don't expect others to flesh him out for me or something like that, I just think it would be more interesting if he kind of took a life of his own beyond what I have in mind through his interaction with others.

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(C) Being that it is technology that keeps Epicenter's powers under control, how will this non-tech dimension affect his effectiveness? Just curious.



That's up to how we write it since there hasn't been any indication that technology can't work there. The people have just pretty much stopped in their advancement, much like Europe did during the Dark Ages and the Native Americans did.




Yeah, I haven't read anything about some sort of magic barrier not allowing technology to work there.
But, anyway, if it turns out that that's the case, I have no objection with Epicenter's powers going whacko, as long as he doesn't know that's gonna happen when he goes to the other universe.


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Okay. Sorry. Guess I misunderstood the nature of this dimension.

EURO: Listen, I know your intentions are good, and all, but, I really don't want us to have to go through the same old format of "disguising our characters as {INSERT WHATEVER}" to "sneak them in". Why do we have to sneak in? Why can't we just have them go over, and deal with whatever they find? Wouldn't a world of magic be prepared to accept a skull-faced being, or other oddity? I just get tired of reading about the team having to disguise themselves in some way. It's understandable every so often. But, every story?

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Okay. Sorry. Guess I misunderstood the nature of this dimension.



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The whole bit about technolgy not working has purely been speculation amongst the characters since Sam himself said he didn't know. It could be technology doesn't work over there, or it could be that they just haven't developed past simple mechanics. The universe we set our characters in has both technology and magic with technology overshadowing the use of the arcane or divine arts. The dimension we're going to could merely be the inverse with spells and potions being more prevelant than the wheel. Like I said, it depends on how we write it.


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That's right. I made sure not to specify anything too much since obviously several Vanguardians rely on pseudo-science for their powers/abilities.

Now, as far as the "sneaking in" thing goes, I think that Vanguard must at least make an attempt to blend in with the population of the Darkworld. If they blundered in there like the U.S. Army in Iraq, even the people they're going in to "liberate" will be up in arms against them, and all that will happen is that all the people of this world, the living and the dead -- though they be enemies to one another -- will be united against those they see as the "strange invaders" from the stars (or, more likely, as "demons" since this is a medieval world, and medieval peoples were VERY xenophobic).

Mason Templar's clothing already fits in with a medieval motif, but the rest of the team needs to disguise themselves a bit better, methinks. I would have had the team disguised as knights, since that's what in effect they are going to be on this world sword or no sword, but in the early stages it may actually be more profitable in the long run to go in disguised as traveling gypsy performers... At least until they've managed to learn what they need to learn about the evil wizard.

They don't know anything about this world other than what little Sam has told them, so the only intelligent thing to do is to arrive there and try to arouse as little suspicion as possible while they figure out their plans. It would be cool if we didn't worry about the time in this story so it could be shown that they are there for several weeks or even months planning their 'hero revolution.' Whatever time they arrive back in this world will be whatever time it is in the present.

Anyway, whatever the team does, Mason Templar's going to be laughing at and berating all of you.

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Also don't forget that some of the people on the world know Sam and can't be too happy with him (after eladign an army of there people to death).

And other survivors from Sam's plane might still be alive (including Meg, he never did see her body...).


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I do like the character's powers, though. Immediately reminds me of Major Disaster. I hope to see his characterisation fleshed out by yourself, though. Is he a militaristic-minded person who is very self-disciplined and usually on the serious side? Or is he somewhat laid back with a sense of humour? Anything would help. Which country is he from, by the way?




I don't have any of those answers. I'll figure that out as I write.
I don't expect others to flesh him out for me or something like that, I just think it would be more interesting if he kind of took a life of his own beyond what I have in mind through his interaction with others.




So far the only thing I've done with him is made him the butt of jokes (besides the bird-turd thing, I've set up the possibility of a running joke involving his first name that I'll probably try to continue as long as possible unless the madness is stopped), so I think you'd better save him from my wacky clutches.

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Euro, it's a good idea to have a poster child for Vanguard; but is Ed really the best choice? I've mulled this over in my head since you made the post and just have to ask this outright: Isn't Ed still a wanted man? You know, for killing the prostitue as well as other stuff.


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Mxy, I'm sorry but I couldn't help myself. I'm such a bastard...

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I don't have any of those answers. I'll figure that out as I write.




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I made sure not to specify anything too much since obviously several Vanguardians rely on pseudo-science for their powers/abilities...




What are you implying?

Next you'll be telling me that Star Trek is fake.

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Now, as far as the "sneaking in" thing goes, I think that Vanguard must at least make an attempt to blend in with the population of the Darkworld....Mason Templar's clothing already fits in with a medieval motif, but the rest of the team needs to disguise themselves a bit better, methinks...




Disguises are not a problem for Phil. All he has to do is decide what he wants other people to see when they look at him. Granted, if he is unconscious or sleeping, the illusion might not hold up. (reference issue 11, on the airliner.)

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Anyway, whatever the team does, Mason Templar's going to be laughing at and berating all of you.




Sort of like a Dirk Bell who hasn't yet exhibited any redeeming value?

Sorry, couldn't resist.


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More like EXACTLY like a Dirk Bell that hasn't exhibited any redeeming value yet....

Oh goodie. We get to dress up like Gypsies, or something, and sneak in.

Yay.

Loads of predictable fun there......

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redeeming value in the same sentence? Obviously, somebody wasn't paying attention.


While I wasn't about the soccer team idea, I do feel that some disguises are justified in this case, at least initially so they can get the feel of things and settle in. After all, they need to "think things through," eh?

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Okay. I can go along with this "disguise" thing, as long as we don't ALL have the same one. Maybe a "Return of the Jedi"/"Suprise! Suprise! It's Lando in disguise!"-kind of thing.

Maybe Raptor could be a gypsy, and Grimm could be the "Carnival Monster", and Mason could be a "Royal Guard" of some kind, and Ozzy could be the bareknuckle fighter, etc., etc.

That's all I'm saying.

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At some point in the story the following line from Willow must be used:

"Not a woman? NOT A WOMAN?!?"


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http://www.cthulhulives.org/necronomicontest/contest.html

I figured this link would be appropriate, since we're about to employ the Necronomicon to travel into the World of Darkness soon.

P.S.: Is everyone ready to go, or should we give it another day to get another island post in?

P.P.S: I think the Vanguardians who can't fly under their own power should travel to this other dimension while inside the Stormloader, since they really don't know whether it will work or not. Mason will be bringing Erasmus along, and Drake can switch into Drax before we leave, so that if the Stormloader loses power after it emerges from the vortex, Erasmus and Drax can support its weight in order to ease its landing safely. Phil can use his telepathic abilities to cause the Stormloader to be invisible to anyone around who may see it arrive.

P.P.P.S.: Dan and Mxy, I hope you guys have a chance to post soon. I'm writing your characters more than you are so far.

P.P.P.P.S.: All these P's are affecting my bladder. I really gots to pee.

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Cool site. I say give it another day.

There's nothing that says the Stormloader or technology won't work in this universe. Gooz' initial idea for the story is based off of Army of Darkness, and Ash uses technology all through that film. Right now, it's purely speculation whether things will work or not. Don't get so worked up over stuff that hasn't happened yet, guys.

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Right, Grimm. But they would take precautions since I wrote that Dan is preparing for the eventuality that technology may not work over there. All part of the preparation process, my friend.

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Absolutely. Caution and preparedness is all part of the "thinking things out" suggested elsewhere. I'm referring to people's automatic assumptions that is a purely "magical" universe. Whatever that means. . .

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That's why I wrote Adem's and Danny's concerns as pure speculations since they really don't know, and Sam can't confirm it one way or another. It lends some dramatic tension in the story. I can't be blamed if Pro (as usual) misreads what I (and Gooz) wrote and assumes the speculations to be fact...

The analogy with Army of Darkness only works so far, though, since that took place in Earth's past, while this will take place in another universe entirely which, for all we know, could have different laws of physics governing it. Sort of like in the JLA-Avengers miniseries except divided on more scientific/magical lines.

Personally, I'm partial to the idea that it's very similar to the HR universe, except while the HR universe is predominantly scientific with some magic here and there, the Darkworld universe is predominantly magical with some science here and there. But that's just MY speculation. Don't take my word for it.

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Mason Templar's clothing already fits in with a medieval motif, but the rest of the team needs to disguise themselves a bit better, methinks...





Also, if ya guys remember, when Sam returned on the 14th floor, he was decked out in a Knight-like suit.

I would love to see the team eventually be like the "Knights of the round" table. Just one thing, Euro, you better not pull an old table out of your ass You either know what I mean, or you joined in after issue 5


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I happen to know that the Revolutionaries' "Round Table" is safely ensconced within the Complex. It's one of the team's few links to its humble origins.

(No, I don't recommend bringing a table along for the journey, either.)

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I started a mission for the Strikeforce, too. If the "chosen ones" posters would partecipate, I would be very pleased.




Done, I was hoping to get NotWedge to help me with 'The Plan', but oh well. Just have Merlin and Texhek discussed if they want WaterMan to blowup the prison (fill it in with water like an exploded dam, I imagined).

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CJ: Good planning meeting in the Strikeforce story. It read a lot like a JLA meeting, only somewhat different. Two things you should note:

1) General D'goon was assassinated at the end of issue #14 and was presumably immediately replaced by Baron Zero.

2) Iota can travel directly into the palace through a telephone line or -- more likely in this high-speed world -- a cable or DSL internet connection. He can do anything the silver age Atom can do, and more.

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Sorry...I'm brain dead, will make corrections.

But I think I passed my Genetics exam with flying colors, so I am happppppppppy and tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiired...lalalalala...;)


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It lends some dramatic tension in the story. I can't be blamed if Pro (as usual) misreads what I (and Gooz) wrote and assumes the speculations to be fact...




Oh. I'm sorry. I just thought you were doing your anal-rententive overplanning (as usual), deciding the entire process of getting to the dimension, who's going to be riding what, and where and how things will and will not work, and in what fashion everyone needs to be dressed. I didn't realize it was just "speculation".

Fuck it then. Science works if I want it to, and Ozzy will be riding a fucking bicycle while dressed in a suit of fiber-optic mesh that conducts e-mails directly to his brain....

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Think I saw that in the SkyMall catalog on my last flight on Southwest.


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