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ManofTheAtom said:
Of course continuity is an option... they're called Elseworlds at DC and pretty much anything at Marvel.

Look at Darwin Cooke's New Frontier.

He wanted it to be in continuity, found it frustraring to make it in continuity and then was told to just tell his story and not worry about where it fits, so he's doing it.

Other writers, like Waid, want what they do to BE continuity.

It's not enough for them to just tell their story, they want it to be THE story.

THAT'S the problem.

When writers aren't happy with just telling their stories, when they expect it to become the new rules.

Darwin isn't interested in reinventing the wheel, he just wants to have fun telling his story.

Waid is interested in reinventing Superman because his Silver Age fanboy ego won't let him understand Byrne's Man of Steel and Crisis.

Then you have writers like Kesel and his World's Finest maxi series.

This is a writer that can have fun writing comics IN continuity and doesn't have to bitch, whine and cry in search of fanboys that agree with him that continuity's wrong.

So maybe you can't read something like World's Finest without crying, but, you see, that's becasuse you're ignorant about the content of such a series and you assume that it requieres that you have knowledge from other stories.

All that knowledge does, in relation to this or any other continuity story, is ENHANCE the experience.

It makes you go "Hah, I remember that!"

Yesterday I saw an episode of Angel where Spike told Fred about when he met Wesley years ago.

For someone that's NEVER seen Buffy, it sounded like one character explaining his relationship to another character, the same way we had heard about Spike having known Angel 200 years ago but never seen it.

To those that saw Buffy, like me, such a scene, such exposition, brings a smile to their face.

Spike says "I met him when he was a young Watcher, just starting out".

A fairly simple line of dialogue that, to those who know better, brings a sense of nostalgia and a grin to their face.

To those that don't know better, hopefully, will make curious to know more or they will just shrug their shoulders and think "Ah, so he knows Wesley, that's cool".

See the difference?



You walk in circles. We've been over most of that. You've been inside Waid's head. I understand that. I wish I had the power to do that, but I don't. By doing what he did Byrne became God, and by doing something essentially similar, only different in content, Waid became the Devil. It doesn't matter that the changes made in the story are subjective, you don't like them so he must have a secret agenda. Waid and his secret hidden agenda. Do you think his comics would see the light of day if DC didn't want the same thing he does? You should be happy about DiDio's interview: it means someone can come in and ignore Waid, maybe even using Byrne as a basis for Superman.
I'd just like to rescue a couple things from your repetitive rant:

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ManofTheAtom said:
Of course continuity is an option... they're called Elseworlds at DC and pretty much anything at Marvel.



We've been over this. What, one, two books a month? Less? Against a shitload of comics that HAS to use continuity? (or at least HAD, I don't know how things are now). Just like you can accept that there's a graphic novel that doesn't belong in continuity, why can't you accept the same could happen in one of the monthly comics?

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He wanted it to be in continuity, found it frustraring to make it in continuity and then was told to just tell his story and not worry about where it fits, so he's doing it.



According to Pariah, he's less of a writer because he didn't want to use continuity. He "can't write adaptively".

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So maybe you can't read something like World's Finest without crying, but, you see, that's becasuse you're ignorant about the content of such a series and you assume that it requieres that you have knowledge from other stories.




Ex-fucking-cuse me?! I'll have you know I've been looking forward to reading that series for YEARS. I know what's it about and how it's done, I know it uses continuity. And yet, if I ever saw it I'd buy it in a second.
I've said this a million times but I'll repeat it again for your benefit, because you can't retain anything for more than five minutes: I'M CAPABLE OF ENJOYING STORIES THAT USE CONTINUITY AS LONG AS THEY'RE WELL DONE. At the same time, I'd hate a story that doesn't use continuity if it wasn't well done. I wouldn't cry or have a heart attack because of the fact that a story uses continuity or not, that's you. My whole point is that continuity should be allowed as much as lack of it. YOU are the intollerant one, not me. I don't close myself to things, I don't make prejudices, that's YOU.