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I'm Not Mister Mxypltk said:
If that issue doesn't make you have a heart attack because of the line "may or may not have happened" in the solictiation or whatever, then what's the problem here??? I'm arguing that writers should be free to write stories like that within main titles if they want without any major explanations that get in the way of storytelling, and I don't think the line "may or may not have happened" is a major explanation, in fact, it's pretty reasonable to prevent heads of people like you from blowing up.
I'm all for adding the line "may or may not have happened" whenever a writer feels like skipping continuity.



Who says it was in the solicitation? That was my explanation for it based on the ending.

Birthright can still be told without connecting it to continuity, yet both the editor and the writer WANT to connect it to continuity.

See, the problem isn't whether or not such stories can be told, the problem is when the writer wants that story to be the ONLY story, which is what's happening with BR.

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I'm so fucking happy he's free to do it. Even if the Acurdi Doom Patrol rocked (i liked the little I saw of it). It's still there, in the sense that people can still read it and enjoy it, and in the sense that writers can still go and use it for basis of their interpretation and ignore Byrne because of selective continuity.



This is not a good thing, Mxy.

Byrne is as wrong on DP as Waid is on Superman.

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Ah, so books can only get rebooted if you think they need to be ignored. I guess the difference between you and Pariah is that Pariah defends continuity on principle, going with the good and the bad, and you defend it out of ego, only using the argument when it defends your interests.



No, I defend continuity and consistancy based on STORY.

BR has nothing to hang on to replace MoS, just like DP doesn't have anything to hang on to replace Acurdi's run.

MoS had Crisis.

It's all a matter of the solution coming AFTER the problem, not the other way around.

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It's still in continuity. They fought in Invasion. How can you defend MoS saying it shouldn't be rebooted because it's in continuity and it would need an in continuity justification to be rebooted (you said yourself you would be all up for Birthright if there was a Crisis like event to back it up), and then suddenly say such things don't matter with the Doom Patrol because you happen to think it needs the reboot? You just never thought you'd bump into someone that actually remembers the shit you say, didn't you?



I don't know much about the DP, I had no idea they had been in Invasion.

You just gave a reason why Byrne's reboot of it doesn't work.

I was going off on what little I knew about them, which is just the existance of the Vertigo series that was followed by the recent one that got canceled.

Being a Vertigo book, I didn't think there be a problem in rebooting.

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I hope that means it's a joke, because if you really think so then, by definition, you're stupid.



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If you KNOW without a doubt you're right about everything you say here, then it's not conviction, it's blind fanatism. And that's never good.



Considering that Waid wrote BR based on the idea that what he's putting down on paper is the absolute definite origin of Superman, I'd say that he's the fanatic, specially when it comes to the outdated SA ideas he's using.

Comics are like a Rorschach test; everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be...