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So you met yourself online?
Nope, not yet.
I've met worse than me, though.
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Who said I didn't like Heroes Reborn?
Liefeld's Captain America was one of the best that that project had to offer, right after Lee's F4.
It is possible to think that an artist sucks but like his writing, you know? Just like it's possible to think that a writer sucks at penciling but like his stories.
Sigh... So, in other words, you do like Lefield. Not his art (ech!) but his writting. I never specified if you liked his art or his writting, I just said you liked him.
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It's one thing to be passionate about telling stories, it's another to be passionate about just making comics.
Those are two different thinks.
What comics need are STORYTELLERS, not fans turned writers who just want to revive an old era from their childhood.
Like you do.
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I guess any Image explosion 90's comic that sold more than Watchmen is better than Moore's work, then.
Depends on your definition of better.
I find originality to be better than regurgitation.
I've met many dorks online that think that regurgitating the past is better than improving on the present.
What are you saying? That Watchmen is regurgitation? So, Spawn and the likes are better because they are... "original"?
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Sigh... So, in other words, you do like Lefield. Not his art (ech!) but his writting. I never specified if you liked his art or his writting, I just said you liked him.
Considering it was Liefeld we were talking about, what's more likely, that you were saying I liked his art or his writing?
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Like you do.
Right.
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What are you saying? That Watchmen is regurgitation? So, Spawn and the likes are better because they are... "original"?
Spawn is Spider-Man, Batman, Ghost Rider, Superman regurgitated.
Watchmen is the Charlton Heroes regurgitated.
So no, those two aren't better.
Witchblade, however, is a much more original concept, as is Darkness.
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ManofTheAtom said:Considering it was Liefeld we were talking about, what's more likely, that you were saying I liked his art or his writing?
I consider both the art and the writing equally pathetic. I can't be 100% sure about this, though: I'm the kind of crazy person that doesn't buy comics he doesn't enjoy, so my exposure to Lefield is very limited.
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Right.
So, you shouldn't be allowed to write comics.
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ManofTheAtom said:Spawn is Spider-Man, Batman, Ghost Rider, Superman regurgitated.
Watchmen is the Charlton Heroes regurgitated.
So no, those two aren't better.
Witchblade, however, is a much more original concept, as is Darkness.
So Darkness and Witchblade are better than Watchmen. I see. Be glad nobody besides you and me is reading this.
You still don't understand the concept of homage, do you? Besides, Moore only used analogues because he wasn't allowed to use the originals. It would have been the exact same story only different names and costumes. Do you still think it would be worse than an "original" concept like Witchblade?
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Other people read this, we just don't take mota seriously!
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So, you shouldn't be allowed to write comics.
I didn't say that.
I said that comics need people that can tell stories, not fanboys.
Fans can be able to tell stories without being fanboys.
Fanboys are writers who are more interested in recreating the past or being on a creators good side than in telling stories.
Fans are those that like what they're writing and can still tell original stories without repeating what came before.
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So Darkness and Witchblade are better than Watchmen. I see. Be glad nobody besides you and me is reading this.
You still don't understand the concept of homage, do you? Besides, Moore only used analogues because he wasn't allowed to use the originals. It would have been the exact same story only different names and costumes. Do you still think it would be worse than an "original" concept like Witchblade?
Let me guess, you're one of those that thinks that Watchmen is the end all and be all of comics and Moore is a God, right?
You do know that it is possible to come up with better concepts and stories than Watchmen, right?
Watchmen was the first word on modern comics, not the last.
So yes, Darkness and Witchblade can be better than Watchmen.
And no, it wouldn't have been the same story with the old characters.
It would have been similar but not exactly the same.
There were things Moore did with the new characters he couldn't have done with the original ones.
That doesn't change the fact that both sets of characters were very similar.
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So, you shouldn't be allowed to write comics.
I didn't say that.
I said that comics need people that can tell stories, not fanboys.
Fans can be able to tell stories without being fanboys.
Fanboys are writers who are more interested in recreating the past or being on a creators good side than in telling stories.
Fans are those that like what they're writing and can still tell original stories without repeating what came before.
So if you had the chance you wouldn't wipe Birthright and go back to MoS? I need to remind you that MoS is the past.
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ManofTheAtom said:Let me guess, you're one of those that thinks that Watchmen is the end all and be all of comics and Moore is a God, right?
No. I just think it's the best comic ever. And Moore is probably the best comic writer ever.
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You do know that it is possible to come up with better concepts and stories than Watchmen, right?
Quite possible. I'd aim for that if I was a writer. Hasn't happened yet, though. Besides, Watchmen's genius isn't so much about the concept, it's more about how it's told and how the story is constructed.
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Watchmen was the first word on modern comics, not the last.
It was one of the first words in dark comics, and it should have been the last. Everything grim that came out afterwards was an attempt to recreate Watchmen and DKR. Like all imitations, they were inferior.
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So yes, Darkness and Witchblade can be better than Watchmen.
They could potentially be. Are they? From what I've seen, they're not even close. Not the concepts, not the stories.
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It would have been similar but not exactly the same.
Right. Different names and costumes, as I said.
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There were things Moore did with the new characters he couldn't have done with the original ones.
That's the whole point. He had to change them because he wasn't allowed to do certain things with the original characters.
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So if you had the chance you wouldn't wipe Birthright and go back to MoS? I need to remind you that MoS is the past.
If I was told "remake Superman" I would write something that wouldn't be MoS and wouldn't be BR.
If I was told "fix Superman" then I'd address the BR problem and take Superman back to his Post Crisis MoS roots.
Remember, MoS is the origin of consequence, it's the one that came after Crisis.
I have no loyalty to the credit box.
If BR had been the one that came after Crisis and it was being replaced by MoS in the same half assed way as it's happening now, it would deserve the same kind of disdain.
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No. I just think it's the best comic ever. And Moore is probably the best comic writer ever.
I wouldn't call it the best ever, there have been better.
And Moore is far from being the best writer ever.
He's, at best, a five note writer.
All his projects have the same ideas behind them.
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Quite possible. I'd aim for that if I was a writer. Hasn't happened yet, though. Besides, Watchmen's genius isn't so much about the concept, it's more about how it's told and how the story is constructed.
Maybe back then, but not today.
In the last 18 years since Watchmen there have been better stories.
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It was one of the first words in dark comics, and it should have been the last. Everything grim that came out afterwards was an attempt to recreate Watchmen and DKR. Like all imitations, they were inferior.
Eh, I wasn't talking about the grim and gritty aspects of it, I was refering more to the down to Earth aspects of it.
In an era when comics were still about bad dialogue and uber-fantastical elements, Watchmen brought a new perspective into comics ( or at least one that hadn't been exploited to its full potential), that of looking at the heroes from the inside out instead of the outside in.
Watchmen helped open the door to the idea that the lives of the people under the mask were just as important as their lives when wearing the mask.
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They could potentially be. Are they? From what I've seen, they're not even close. Not the concepts, not the stories.
Hey, I might get the same impression if I didn't follow them on a constant basis.
Since I do and have since, relatively speaking, they started, I can tell you that apperances can be deceiving.
To an outsider, Witchblade might look like a comic with a women with giant breasts, but the series is about more than that.
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Right. Different names and costumes, as I said.
No, no, it would have gone beyond that.
You can't do with Captain Atom what Moore did with Dr. Manhattan. Captain Atom will never get to the point of being able to build a city made of glass on Mars, that's something that goes beyond him.
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That's the whole point. He had to change them because he wasn't allowed to do certain things with the original characters.
I think he changed them because he wasn't allowed to use them at all.
He has to create new ones, that while original, still owed a lot to their counterparts.
Manhattan was one of the more original creations, but the others still owed a lot to their counterparts.
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Here it is again:
ok mota, heres the plan:
First: take a deep breath, and say comics are not real
second: bend over and reach between your legs, see a stick sticking out of your ass? Good now pull it out. That should help immensely.
Third: Get out of your parents basement, take a shower, and go outside.
That bright thing in the sky is the sun, and no it doesn't give you super powers. Talk to people. The ones with the long hair and boobies are called women. They make men happy. If you have to there are ones that you can pay to teach you things, they are usually in bad parts of town, but since you live in Mexico, thats everywhere.
Get drunk and pay for one. In the morning you will realize there are more important things in the world than comic book continuity.
This should help you, and don't worry I don't expect any thanks, you calming down should be enough thanks for me and every one else.
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If I was told "remake Superman" I would write something that wouldn't be MoS and wouldn't be BR.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. That would be the right thing to do, but I doubt you'd do it. I think you would simply use the chance to ignore Birthright and go back to where the MoS continuity was left in 1999.
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If I was told "fix Superman" then I'd address the BR problem and take Superman back to his Post Crisis MoS roots.
Oh. Well, there you go. That's what I was saying. Like it or not, MoS is in the past. Going back to it is as bad as going back to the 60's. In fact, worse than going back to the 60's, since there hasn't been a "breathing period" to properly separate it from what goes on today. Bringing back the 60's, as lame as it may be, at least would give us a new different look on an era.
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Remember, MoS is the origin of consequoence, it's the one that came after Crisis.
I'm sorry, but that only means something if you're a continuity obsessed fan. Since I'm not one, that means nothing to me. It could have come after Invasion! for all I care.
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I have no loyalty to the credit box.
If BR had been the one that came after Crisis and it was being replaced by MoS in the same half assed way as it's happening now, it would deserve the same kind of disdain.
Then why did you say that other time that if there was a Crisis like event to support Birthright you'd be up for it?
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If there's a better comic, I haven't read. Just for curiosity, what do you think the best comic so far is?
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And Moore is far from being the best writer ever.
Same as before: I don't know a better comic writer.
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He's, at best, a five note writer.
All his projects have the same ideas behind them.
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So Tom Strong has the same ideas as From Hell? Promethea and A Small Killing?
He does have some recurrent topics, but he views them under different lights (the Victorian era from From Hell is radically different from the one in LoEG).
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Maybe back then, but not today.
In the last 18 years since Watchmen there have been better stories.
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Eh, I wasn't talking about the grim and gritty aspects of it, I was refering more to the down to Earth aspects of it.
In an era when comics were still about bad dialogue and uber-fantastical elements, Watchmen brought a new perspective into comics ( or at least one that hadn't been exploited to its full potential), that of looking at the heroes from the inside out instead of the outside in.
Watchmen helped open the door to the idea that the lives of the people under the mask were just as important as their lives when wearing the mask.
That's right. And those concepts have rarely been shown as well as they were in Watchmen since then.
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Hey, I might get the same impression if I didn't follow them on a constant basis.
Since I do and have since, relatively speaking, they started, I can tell you that apperances can be deceiving.
To an outsider, Witchblade might look like a comic with a women with giant breasts, but the series is about more than that.
The little I've read is more than enough to realize that, for me, it isn't. Besides, the way Watchmen was told was groundbreaking. The way the story was carefully constructed. Every little detail mattered and it isn't a coincidence that Dave Gibbons is the artist, Moore specifically selected him for his great attention to detail.
The issues of Withcblade and Darkness I read were average dark superhero comics, told as average dark superhero comics and drawn as average dark superhero comics.
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No, no, it would have gone beyond that.
You can't do with Captain Atom what Moore did with Dr. Manhattan. Captain Atom will never get to the point of being able to build a city made of glass on Mars, that's something that goes beyond him.
Not if Moore had gotten his hands on him.
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I think he changed them because he wasn't allowed to use them at all.
If Watchmen had been an average comic and there had been no repercussions to the characters, there would have been no problem at all with using them.
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He has to create new ones, that while original, still owed a lot to their counterparts.
Manhattan was one of the more original creations, but the others still owed a lot to their counterparts.
But viewed under a whole new light. As you said, the human side of the characters was something groundbreaking at the time. What's so groundbreaking about Witchblade?
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. That would be the right thing to do, but I doubt you'd do it. I think you would simply use the chance to ignore Birthright and go back to where the MoS continuity was left in 1999.
If I was asked to remake Superman, I'd ignore both since, after all, I'd be remaking Superman.
If I was asked to fix Superman I wouldn't ignore BR, I'd use it to fix the problem.
Unlike Waid, I don't like to ignore things.
Like or not, if I were to asked to "fix Superman" I would HAVE to use BR (which I would).
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Oh. Well, there you go. That's what I was saying. Like it or not, MoS is in the past. Going back to it is as bad as going back to the 60's. In fact, worse than going back to the 60's, since there hasn't been a "breathing period" to properly separate it from what goes on today. Bringing back the 60's, as lame as it may be, at least would give us a new different look on an era.
MoS isn't the past, MoS is still the basis upon which the modern age Superman was built.
To ignore it, DC would have to reboot its entire universe, not just one character.
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I'm sorry, but that only means something if you're a continuity obsessed fan. Since I'm not one, that means nothing to me. It could have come after Invasion! for all I care.
Well, there non-continuity obssessed fans who care too.
You don't really think that all the people that are complaining about BR are into continuity, do you?
I've seen posts that start "I've been away from comics for ___ years and I don't like the changes I'm seeing, could someone explain them to me?"
Hardly the kind of post you'd expect from a continuity obsessed fan, right?
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Then why did you say that other time that if there was a Crisis like event to support Birthright you'd be up for it?
Because if BR came after a Crisis-like event than that would make it the origin of consequence.
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If there's a better comic, I haven't read. Just for curiosity, what do you think the best comic so far is?
I like Solar: Alpha & Omega by Shooter.
I like Watchmen by Moore.
And I like Astro City by Busiek.
There should be more comics like that.
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Same as before: I don't know a better comic writer.
Then you need to read more 
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So Tom Strong has the same ideas as From Hell? Promethea and A Small Killing?
He does have some recurrent topics, but he views them under different lights (the Victorian era from From Hell is radically different from the one in LoEG).
His Supremacy is the same as his Captain Britain Corps but "different", just like the multiple Tom Strong's are the same but "different"...
He has very few notes and he uses them a lot to the point that they indirectly water down the original.
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Like...?
Crisis
Unity
Alpha & Omega
Astro City
Man of Steel
Year One
Perez's Wonder Woman
Hey, not all stories have to be grim n gritty or full of sex like Watchmen to be better than Watchmen, you know?
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That's right. And those concepts have rarely been shown as well as they were in Watchmen since then.
I disagree.
You really need to read more than just DC and Marvel comics...
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The little I've read is more than enough to realize that, for me, it isn't. Besides, the way Watchmen was told was groundbreaking. The way the story was carefully constructed. Every little detail mattered and it isn't a coincidence that Dave Gibbons is the artist, Moore specifically selected him for his great attention to detail.
The issues of Withcblade and Darkness I read were average dark superhero comics, told as average dark superhero comics and drawn as average dark superhero comics.
Yet the content goes beyond just average dark super hero comics
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Not if Moore had gotten his hands on him.
You're just helping me make my point
For Moore to do what he wanted he would have needed to change the characters.
That's why Levitz didn't let him.
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If Watchmen had been an average comic and there had been no repercussions to the characters, there would have been no problem at all with using them.
So Moore should have used them do whatever he wanted and then the next writer should have just ignored him and do his own thing and so on and so forth?
Boring.
That's the same crap that happened before Watchmen.
People want repercutions in their comics, not ignorance.
Had the above happened in Watchmen then it would have been an average comic.
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But viewed under a whole new light. As you said, the human side of the characters was something groundbreaking at the time. What's so groundbreaking about Witchblade?
Depends on your perspective.
Witchblade, along with Lady Death, ushered the "Bad Girl" era of the 90's...
To some, that would be groundbreaking.
From another perspective, Witchblade turned Turner into a super star penciller...
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Look, the Watchmen thing is a matter of tastes so let's leave it at that. I do read a lot of comics (mostly backissues), and I do read more than Marvel and DC (I'm reading El Eternauta right now in fact), but I still think Watchmen is the best comic I've ever read. I've read it about five times and counting, and each time I find something new. And I don't mean it in the Kingdom Come spotting a character sense, I mean it in the finding something that gives a new light to the comic sense. That doesn't happen in any other comic I own, not to that extent.
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If I was told "remake Superman" I would write something that wouldn't be MoS and wouldn't be BR.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. That would be the right thing to do, but I doubt you'd do it. I think you would simply use the chance to ignore Birthright and go back to where the MoS continuity was left in 1999.
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If I was told "fix Superman" then I'd address the BR problem and take Superman back to his Post Crisis MoS roots.
Oh. Well, there you go. That's what I was saying. Like it or not, MoS is in the past. Going back to it is as bad as going back to the 60's. In fact, worse than going back to the 60's, since there hasn't been a "breathing period" to properly separate it from what goes on today. Bringing back the 60's, as lame as it may be, at least would give us a new different look on an era.
And therein lies the problem. To MOTA, any attempt to acknowledge Superman's past is inherently evil if it predates 1986. But regurgitating 1986-1999 ad nauseum is perfectly acceptable. And over and over again, he has asserted that the ONLY way to tell Superman stories to the go back to the Byrne/Jurgens way of doing things, and that DC should pretend that the Loeb era never happened and should rehire Jurgens and company to carry on as if they never left.
Am I the only one who see the hypocrisy in this?
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Considering that the history you want to bring back is full of stupidity like super pets, multi colored Kryptonite and more Kryptonians, then yes, that should be ignored and never brought back.
Since Loeb brought a lot of that back, his run should be ignored too.
Like I told others in the other thread, you should try catching up with the medium, not expect it to fall back down to your level.
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Hipocritical and condescending. Mota you have serious issues. People like different things. I like the idea of different colored kryptonite and superpets. Does that make me stupid?
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Considering that the history you want to bring back is full of stupidity like super pets, multi colored Kryptonite and more Kryptonians, then yes, that should be ignored and never brought back.
AH-AH! You think they're stupid, we don't. That's your opinion, and you should consider it as such and nothing else.
Just like you think that's stupid there can be (and there are) people who think the 86-99 period is stupid. Though I disagree with them, I don't call them stupid. That's because I'm a normal sane human being, unlike you.
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Since Loeb brought a lot of that back, his run should be ignored too.
Another hipocrisy: it's in continuity but you want it to be ignored. It's strongly tied to continuity. This brings me back to the topic of your gigantic ego: you only support an absolute continuity when it's about things you enjoy.
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Like I told others in the other thread, you should try catching up with the medium, not expect it to fall back down to your level.
Yeah, going back to the 90's is catching up...
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Does that make me stupid?
Yes, it does.
Those are concepts that were created to make the comic attractive to simple minded children and simple minded adults.
To like them, means that you're simple minded...
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Another hipocrisy: it's in continuity but you want it to be ignored. It's strongly tied to continuity. This brings me back to the topic of your gigantic ego: you only support an absolute continuity when it's about things you enjoy
Just because something isn't brought up doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Writers can ignore what Loeb did but not invalidate it, which are two different things.
It's one thing to retroactively say that Krypton was never an alien world (as Waid is doing now) and it's another to just not use Clark as a football player or make references to it (as Loeb did in For All Seasons).
Waid is making changes out of ego. Loeb didn't use that idea just because he didn't like it, but he didn't go out of his way to say it never happened.
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Please tell me your joking.
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Does that make me stupid?
Yes, it does.
Those are concepts that were created to make the comic attractive to simple minded children and simple minded adults.
To like them, means that you're simple minded...
And to think that makes you a fucking moron. A certified one. Ask anyone with common sense.
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Just because something isn't brought up doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Writers can ignore what Loeb did but not invalidate it, which are two different things.
Doing exactly that (ignoring the MoS continuity but not rebooting it) was one of the biggest reasons why the Loeb years were a failure.
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It's one thing to retroactively say that Krypton was never an alien world (as Waid is doing now) and it's another to just not use Clark as a football player or make references to it (as Loeb did in For All Seasons).
Waid is making changes out of ego. Loeb didn't use that idea just because he didn't like it, but he didn't go out of his way to say it never happened.
I need to clarify something: you only think it's out of ego because you have a mental disorder that makes you obsess with continuity. Normal people don't. To normal people, what Waid did isn't such a crime as it is you.
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Waid is acting out of ego.
There's no need to do a reboot, but he wants to do one or otherwise he'll miss his made up 20 year deadline.
And just because you have a hard time accepting that concepts like super pets were created to make the comics more interesting to idiots doesn't make me a moron.
You actually must think that super pets were created because of the medium, that because it's "comic books" such concepts HAVE to be part of it.
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actually mxy's right your a moron. its funny to hear you talk about immaturity when your not even mature enough to understand anything that isnt spelled out in a continuity.
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heh i found this amusing, i was just reading the thread in the media forum and in response to my nightwing and supes could have 2 seperate continuity's mota's only response was about krypto http://www.rkmbs.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=256603&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 i thinks maybe the man is obsessed with superpets!
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actually mxy's right your a moron. its funny to hear you talk about immaturity when your not even mature enough to understand anything that isnt spelled out in a continuity.
I have no problem understanding stories that aren't in continuity.
I do expect those that are in continuity to respect the fucking thing.
I'm not interested in buying comics writen by writers with overblown egos.
I buy the stupid things for the stories, not to see asses like Waid try to rekindle their lost childhood.
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i thinks maybe the man is obsessed with superpets!
No I'm not.
People like Mxy who think that comics can't go beyond super pets, who think that ideas like that are an absolute necessity of the medium (which he made clear), are the ones that are obssesed with it.
I use them to make fun of morons like him who can't understand comics beyond the most simple and idiotic of concepts.
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Said: I'm not interested in buying comics writen by writers with overblown egos. Then don't buy them.
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i thinks maybe the man is obsessed with superpets!
No I'm not.
People like Mxy who think that comics can't go beyond super pets, who think that ideas like that are an absolute necessity of the medium (which he made clear), are the ones that are obssesed with it.
I use them to make fun of morons like him who can't understand comics beyond the most simple and idiotic of concepts.
doesnt explain your superpets response to my point made about following 2 seperate continuity's.......obsession.....
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Waid is acting out of ego.
There's no need to do a reboot, but he wants to do one or otherwise he'll miss his made up 20 year deadline.
And just because you have a hard time accepting that concepts like super pets were created to make the comics more interesting to idiots doesn't make me a moron.
You actually must think that super pets were created because of the medium, that because it's "comic books" such concepts HAVE to be part of it.
What the fuck do the super pets have to do with anything?! I'm starting to think your obsession with them is as big as your obsession with continuity. And that's saying a lot.
This is not about Waid, the Silver Age, or Super Pets. This about you being an intollerant fuck who wants comics to be his way and his way only. If I was running things, I would give you as many monthly ongoing comics based on continuity as the writers willing to write them wanted. You, on the other hand, would leave books that "dare" disrespecting continuity relegated to one elseworlds every two months or something like that. I bet you'd even put "respecting continuity in the contract". I mean, it's not hard to see which one of us is the intollerant one, is it?
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actually mxy's right your a moron. its funny to hear you talk about immaturity when your not even mature enough to understand anything that isnt spelled out in a continuity.
I have no problem understanding stories that aren't in continuity.
I do expect those that are in continuity to respect the fucking thing.
I'm not interested in buying comics writen by writers with overblown egos.
I buy the stupid things for the stories, not to see asses like Waid try to rekindle their lost childhood.
That's what you say, but the minute ANY writer disrespected continuity you'd claim he's become an egomaniac.
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ManofTheAtom said:People like Mxy who think that comics can't go beyond super pets, who think that ideas like that are an absolute necessity of the medium (which he made clear), are the ones that are obssesed with it.
When the fuck have I said I love super pets, you dumb fuck? When the fuck have I even fucking brought up the fucking Silver Age? YOU are the one that brings it up, not me. You're the one with the obsession. You've read hundreds more Silver Age comics than me: I must have read 20 or so. If you associate me with the Silver Age it's only because you're so fucking simple minded you put all the things you don't like in the same bag. I don't always like continuity, so I must hate the modern age and love the silver age. If you hated burritos you'd accuse me of loving them too.
Bringing up the Silver Age and the Super Pets in this argument is as out of place as bringing up broken toe nails or alien clones of President Nixon.
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