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aaah, but Japan started it if you don't consider our blacklisting of Japan in World War 1 (for the uninitiated we made Britain choose between us and Japan.).

The Palestinians started it in the middle east.

The Germans started it in world war II.

Don't be mincing words..if someone starts it they screwed themselves. That's retalliation. Something different than terrorism.



How about those Yankee terrorists in the War of Independence?

Or those South African terrorists during aparthied years?




I would never say America wasn't at fault for various things throughout history. We have been in political wars/actions, we could debate on the treatment of the mexican and indian peoples as well. I think they are acting horribly in Iraq. I don't equate it to terrorism because we aren't targeting civilians..but we are there for gain as opposed to true freedom for the Iraqis. And even if we weren't it still isn't our place to be there.

There is no need for us to be anywhere right now. IF we should be in one place it should be Haiti becasue they are our southern neighbors and we swore to protect our hemisphere in the monroe doctrine- granted that was protection from Europeans/asians but we shouldn't let them kill themselves without trying to help. Help and imposition are 2 very different things. We should also still be hunting down Osama and his leadership----that is if we truly do want to find him. I don't think our government does want to find him though.