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Well I didn't want to ruin it, as I thought this was a spoiler free thread, but offhand....

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The scene where the girl steals the van in an attempt to rescue the dog, a classic "woman fucks up everything" horror movie cliche.



No argument here. I was disappointed by that scene as well. I thought she should've been bitten by Andy (or whatever his name was), thus forcing her new boyfriend to kill her. The romance angles in general seemed rushed and forced.

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The whole thing with Mekhi Phifer's pregnant wife...where did that come from? I thought they could have developed it a bit more, built it up. As it was, Phifer was essentially off somewhere else for half the movie then showed up again and had gone crazy. Probably a poor editing job in this regard. Too bad, too, because it was an interesting angle that I can't remember any other zombie movie touching on.



I disagree here. It was clear that she was pregnant from the beginning. Phifer's attachment to his wife and child was explained (albeit briefly) in the men's room scene with Rhames just after the attack that started the problem. The initial injury was shown and, if you saw the trailer or know anything about horror movies (which I'm sure are two categories you fit into, Animalman), you saw what was coming. To show any more than the quick scenes between the two is to bludgeon a dead horse. Show enough to instill the dread at what's to come with completely tipping your hand. And, overall, it worked. The final resolution of that subplot was the final taboo that I spoke about in my previous thread. Was this subplot perfect? Nope...but, in general, it worked.

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Also, the portable camera shots that played during the credits...utterly pointless, I thought. They couldn't have just shown it as part of the movie itself? Would have fit in just fine with the dark comedy theme.



As a sort of epilogue it works. But not so if it had been left in-tact and part of the movie in general. The movie ends with the survivors sailing off into the sunset, then most people see a fade-out and credits and leave the theater. The final scenes are for us true fans on the genre...they say "Guess what? No one lives happily ever after." It was a bonus for the people who sit through the credits. But if it had been part of the movie, it would've been predictable and jarring to the narrative. And I don't think this was a dark comedy...rather, it was a horror movie with some dark humor in it.

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Stylistically, I thought the movie was well made. The Johnny Cash song at the beginning was a nice touch. I just didn't think it was very thought out, and storywise, the execution was poor.



We'll agree to partially disagree here. We agree with the style. We agree about the Johnny Cash tune. We disagree with the execution. While I don't think it was perfect, I think "poor" is a strong word.

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Really, when it comes down to it, the idea that a dozen people in a mall can fight off hundreds of zombies with a few guns and a bus for days, but an army of trained soldiers in a military base, armed with who knows how many weapons and vehicles, was completely overrun in a matter of hours, is pretty silly.



I think this is where a big mistake was made in the flow of the movie. The director wanted the viewers to know that the problem was world-wide, that the military was overwhelmed by a threat that they weren't prepared to handle, and that the zombies "won". Unfortunately, his way of showing this gives the impression that it happened in a matter of hours (especially when, after the credits, we go back to Sarah Polley) when, in reality, the director was showing events that happened over days, weeks, or even months. Sloppy and silly, but it made its point. The people in the mall weren't going to be rescued anytime soon.

I liked it. You didn't. To each his own...

(Look all, a debate where the actual points are debated, And no personal attacks! Wowzers!!!)

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