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A couple of interesting bits of info I had found and wanted to share.

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Finally this morning, I've saved the best (or worst) for last. The NY Times has a new story up on how the Hollywood studios are rushing to cash in on the DVD boom. Here's your happy, happy, joy, joy from the article... Miramax is reportedly preparing to release a half-dozen different DVD editions of Kill Bill:

"This is the beauty of having two volumes," said Rick Sands, chief operating officer at Miramax. "Vol. 1 goes out, Vol. 2 goes out, then Vol. 1 Special Edition, Vol. 2 Special Edition, the two-pack, then the Tarantino collection as a boxed set out for Christmas. It's called multiple bites at the apple. And you multiply this internationally." Mr. Tarantino has also cut an alternate version of the movie for Japan.

I'm gonna ask the obvious right now: Can you believe the BALLS required to make a statement like that in public? To a reporter? For a story that people are going to READ?! Do you suppose Miramax planned to let fans of the film know about all this, so they could... oh, I don't know... maybe make informed decisions about which version they want to spend their hard-earned cash on? I can understand the need to put out multiple DVD versions of a film on occasion, but DAMN! A half-dozen different DVD editions, and Tarantino wants to release stand-alone Beneath the Crust-style discs of supplemental materials as well?! F#@K THAT.

Multiple bites at the apple, huh?

BITE THIS!

And to think the entertainment industry has the nerve to wonder why some people download this stuff. Greedy bastards. Doh!

Stay tuned...





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Greedy studios make DVDs not so special
By Renee Graham, Globe Staff | April 27, 2004

When I received my first DVD player for Christmas in 2001, I did what anyone with such a spanking new high-tech toy would do: I immediately dashed out and bought an armload of my favorite movies on disc. I started with "Blazing Saddles," "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," and "The Great Escape," and by the time 2001 turned into 2002, I had also picked up "Enter the Dragon," "Amadeus," and Akira Kurosawa's "Ran."

I've spent the years since replacing those early acquisitions with newfangled DVD versions of the same movies. As a DVD novice, it never occurred to me that the studios would release multiple versions of the same film.

And I don't just mean full-screen versus wide-screen (letterboxed) formats. I refer to the irritating, increasing tendency of the ever-rapacious movie industry to make a big deal out of releasing a hotly awaited film on DVD, and then months, sometimes years later putting out another version of that movie that's tricked-out with features. Collector's editions give way to special editions, limited editions are replaced by ultimate versions -- all with the intention of wringing more dollars out of consumers.

On the first day of its DVD release, "Kill Bill Vol. 1," Quentin Tarantino's ultraviolent, ultrastylish revenge orgy starring Uma Thurman, sold 2 million copies and made a whopping $40 million. Customers snapping up this fairly bare-bones disc -- in addition to the film, there's only a making-of documentary, a "Vol. 2" trailer, and video from the Japanese all-girl band the 5.6.7.8's, who perform in the film -- probably did so expecting a later version featuring both parts of the film. ("Kill Bill Vol. 2" recently opened in theaters.) But what customers buying the disc didn't know was that Miramax is actually planning six different DVD releases of the "Kill Bill" films.

Here's how Rick Sands, Miramax's chief operating officer, explained it to The New York Times last week:

" `Vol. 1' goes out, `Vol. 2' goes out, then `Vol. 1 Special Edition,' `Vol. 2 Special Edition,' the two-pack, then the Tarantino collection as a boxed set for Christmas," he said. "It's called multiple bites at the apple."

The apple ain't the only thing getting bitten.

It may have taken the studios a few years to recognize the public's embrace of DVDs, but now they're clearly focused on greedily exploiting that desire as much as possible. Studios can now spend as much promoting a film on DVD as for its theatrical run, and the financial benefits can quickly become a bonanza. And movie executives understand that someone willing to buy a movie they've probably already paid $10 to see in a theater wants the best available version of a beloved film. (This is why "The Lord of the Rings" fans who bought the two-disc versions of the first two films turned right around and bought the extended four-disc box sets at twice the price.)

See, it's never been just the much-improved quality of the picture and sound on DVDs that makes them so hot. It's all those cool extras such as full-length commentary tracks from cast and crew members, deleted scenes, outtakes, and behind-the-scenes documentaries. Some also offer interviews with stars and directors on programs such as "Charlie Rose" or appearances from film festivals. Save being on a movie set, it's the most comprehensive way to fully experience a favorite film.

If the studios wanted to be fair (and, of course, there's no indication that they would even know how), they would take their cues from the Criterion Collection, generally recognized as the gold standard for DVD releases. The collection features films from the world's great directors such as Kurosawa, Federico Fellini, and Alfred Hitchcock, and its releases are lovingly restored and usually enhanced with multiple special features. Criterion DVDs tend to be more expensive -- a typical two-disc set runs about $40 -- but it seems worth it because these releases tend to be definitive versions. And Criterion avoids such meaningless terms as "collector's edition" or "special edition," meant to lure customers believing they are getting something extra.

Studio suits would do well to remember the hard lessons learned by the record industry. As CD prices inexplicably increased year after year, some fans turned to peer-to-peer downloading services such as Kazaa and the then-illegal Napster for their music fix. The music industry has been crying foul ever since and suing the very people it wants to purchase its product.

With the "Kill Bill Vol. 1" disc selling so well on its debut day, the studios probably believe they have a green light to continue abusing their customers -- "Hey, no one's making them buy those DVDs," they probably reason. Yet it seems only a matter of time before the public's love of DVDs is poisoned with anger at the studios for exploiting that love for more and more money.

Life in the Pop Lane appears on Tuesdays. Renee Graham can be reached at graham@globe.com.

© Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company.




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Thank you. Now I feel even less guilty.

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To be honest I'm not one of these people who really cares about special features,so I am unlilkely to buy a DVD again if its released with extra special features,or if its THX digitally remastered or whatever.
What does piss me off is when they re-release a film like Enter the dragon & put the missing scenes back in it.
They knew those scenes existed when they released the original version yet they still released it minus those scenes.
Its either pure laziness or greed that makes them do this,but I'm going with the latter on this!

Its not just DVDs though,I have seen several re-releases of CDs where extra tracks have been added,then a year later,the CDs are re-released again with other stuff such as DVD rom features added as well.
I have seen this with Motley Crue & Iron Maiden releases in the last few years but its probably happened 1000 times over!

DVD & CD labels do not give a shit about the consumer,all they care about is that the consumer keeps spending money!

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That is why I waited for the LOTR extended versions. I figured Kill Bill would be the same way, but opted to buy volume 1 anyway....I won't be buying volume 2 unless I decide ..NOT to buy the extended-extended versions.

This crap borders on ridiculus. I heard they are re-releasing spider-Man and X-Men in much the same manner. I have been learning my lessons though....I will either wait for the extended versions or I'll buy the original release, but I can't warrant purchasing DVDs 2 times for extra crap.

Truth told..most director's delete stuff because they realize it shouldn't have been in the original movie anyway. If it isn't built into the movie like LOTR or Leon, The Professional then it's mostly just a curious bother anyway.


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Not strictly true about why directors delete stuff.
Sometimes stuff is deleted from films as the movie studio say its too long.
I have heard stories of directors having to cut scenes they really love because some movie exec wanted the film to fit into an 80 minute timeslot!
Also of course censors have their say in what scenes do & dont make the cinema.

I stupidly bought the X-Men 1.5 DVD which supposedly had all the deleted scenes added back in but it was a fucking rip off!
All the scenes could be shown in the context of the film but the film would pause,go to the cut scene,then jump back to the movie,there was no tidying up of the scene or attempt to actually make the scene blend in so often you saw the same thing happen twice because the cut scene wasnt trimmed.

Another idea that I find ridiculous is the new "Superbit" DVDs which provide no extra features at all so they can apparently give us even better quality sound & picture.
Oh come on,how many of us are gonna notice "even better sound & picture"?
DVDs are pretty much damn near perfect anyway so "even better quality" is a fucking joke!

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I said most movies. Any true Director's cut will have the missing scenes cut back into the movie. I'm all for that, but just having deleted scenes tucked onto disc 2 is stupid IMO.


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Yeah I impulsively bought Kill Bill 1 and will probably wait for the final final with both volumes cut together w/ the xtra scenes re-edited. Yeah, I'm a sucker for grabbin the first one, but I figure I can pawn it off for 8 bux and only lose 8 bux in the process. I'll consider that fee for being able to watch it at my leisure between now and the definitive release.

I'm so glad I didn't chump out and fall for x-men 1.5. The reader/buyer reviews actually come quite handly on amazon.com. If they feel like theyve been given the stiff one youll definitely find out there. Always good to be a well-informed consumer.


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all i'll say is netflix, and i have a dvd burner in my computer. i was really pissed when they said nothing about the x-men 1.5 when they realeshed x-men on dvd. i don't like getting screwed like that.

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Dont bother with 1.5,its a shitty rip off with nothing worth buying over the standard edition!

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Dont bother with 1.5,its a shitty rip off with nothing worth buying over the standard edition!




really? still, it pisses me off when they don't announce their intentions on special editions(and i've given up on comic book movie dvds.

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Basically all the cut scenes that were on the original release of X-Men can be watched in the context of the movie but no effort has been made to make the scenes blend in so the whole thing becomes disjointed sometimes seeing the same thing twice but with maybe an extended bit in the middle or something similar!
Also I seem to remember there was some X-Men 2 preview stuff that aint worth getting excited about either!


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