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thedoctor said:
Or just one that follows a set of moral guidelines.



but morals are dependant upon environment.

my friends and i might have a different set of morals than your friends and you. something that hurts your feelings might be nothing to me, and vice versa.

if we're fine exchanging weight jabs with one another, and always refrain from doing it around your more sensitive friends, whats the problem?

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thedoctor said:If someone throws insults at you with the sole purpose of being an ass and to try and make you made, but you don't let it bother you, does that mean that person did nothing wrong?



no, quite the opposite.

despite my putting up a front, if it bothers me, its wrong.

the insulter was unaware of the insultee's environment, and took liberties he shouldn't have. without knowing me, you can't know how i'll react to certain comments.

similarly, swearing, in general, is of course wrong. however, certain groupings of people have no problem swearing aroung one another, at one another, whatever. but there are others who do have an issue with swearing, so the swearers should refrain from doing it while around the more sensitive.

if they didn't, i'd consider that wrong.

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thedoctor said:If two racists stand around making racists jokes that only they can hear, does that make it right?



like i said, any type of insult is, obviously, wrong. i'm not arguing on the bases of morals here, nor do i pretend we're living in a loving, PC world.

i'm simply applying real-life context to the situation.

if two racists sit around making racists jokes where no one can hear ... who the fuck cares? they're fine with it. they're not hurting anyone. they're enjoying their different, allbeit idiotic, lifestyle.

its wrong to us, but they're not doing it to us.

its no different when you and grimm sit at home, making fun of kevin nash because he can't wrestle. or rob liefeld because he can't draw. or anytime you've told a slut joke.

to me, all of those are identical to race jokes, in that they're poking fun at the expense of another grouping, because they're another grouping. race jokes just happen to have a higher rank on the sensitivity scale.

all insults are wrong. thats obvious. thats not the point.

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