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Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-20 11:48 AM
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rex
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2004-06-20 12:29 PM
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Prometheus
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2004-06-21 2:24 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-21 3:50 AM
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Glacier16
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2004-06-21 4:18 AM
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Animalman
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2004-06-21 8:54 AM
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Disco Steve
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2004-06-21 5:28 PM
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Animalman
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2004-06-21 11:48 PM
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Disco Steve
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2004-06-22 2:50 AM
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ROY BATTY
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2004-06-21 11:56 PM
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Animalman
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2004-06-22 12:04 AM
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Stupid Doog
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2004-06-22 12:35 AM
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2004-06-22 1:07 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-22 8:36 AM
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rex
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2004-06-22 8:39 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-22 8:44 AM
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Snapman
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2004-06-22 2:28 PM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-23 6:37 AM
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NurikoK98
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2004-06-22 5:32 AM
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Disco Steve
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2004-06-22 6:26 AM
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ROY BATTY
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2004-06-23 5:33 AM
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Stupid Doog
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2004-06-23 5:37 AM
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Pig Iran
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2004-06-23 5:40 AM
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ROY BATTY
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2004-06-23 5:40 AM
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Stupid Doog
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2004-06-23 5:43 AM
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ROY BATTY
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2004-06-23 5:49 AM
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Prometheus
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2004-06-23 5:56 AM
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Prometheus
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2004-06-22 2:20 AM
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Animalman
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2004-06-22 5:11 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-22 6:30 AM
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Prometheus
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2004-06-22 8:34 AM
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THE Franta
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2004-06-28 9:54 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-28 10:42 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-28 1:48 PM
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THE Franta
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2004-06-28 2:40 PM
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the G-man
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2004-06-28 3:23 PM
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PixieP
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2004-06-28 3:38 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (the Super-Sons conclude, badly!, WORLDS FINEST 263)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-16 12:42 AM
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the G-man
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2004-11-16 1:10 AM
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The Time Trust
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2004-11-16 5:31 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-11-18 8:15 PM
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-19 9:44 AM
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the G-man
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2004-11-19 9:52 AM
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Darknight613
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2004-11-19 10:30 AM
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the G-man
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2004-11-19 10:33 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-11-23 6:24 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (cover: "The day it rained Superboys"...) p8
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-24 9:13 PM
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Darknight613
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2004-11-25 4:36 AM
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King Snarf
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2004-11-25 8:29 AM
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Steve T
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2004-11-25 11:59 AM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-11-25 6:32 PM
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Steve T
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2004-11-25 6:53 PM
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Darknight613
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2004-11-25 8:01 PM
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Grimm
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2004-11-29 4:55 AM
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Darknight613
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2004-11-29 6:19 AM
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King Snarf
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2004-11-29 9:54 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-29 9:55 AM
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the G-man
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2004-11-29 4:28 PM
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Wonder Boy
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2022-12-07 2:19 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-11-26 10:02 AM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-11-27 9:10 PM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-11-28 11:11 AM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-11-29 4:52 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-29 6:11 AM
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King Snarf
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2004-11-29 9:53 AM
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Steve T
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2004-11-29 4:36 PM
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Snapman
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2004-11-29 9:41 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (DC/Fawcett legal battle, Miracleman & Marvel Family) p9
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-29 10:31 PM
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the G-man
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2004-12-13 5:26 PM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-12-21 10:28 AM
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Snapman
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2004-12-21 3:45 PM
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King Snarf
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2004-12-22 9:58 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2005-01-30 2:19 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Elongated Man, The Atom) p10
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Wonder Boy
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2005-01-31 7:51 AM
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Wonder Boy
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2005-03-10 9:05 AM
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the G-man
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2005-03-10 5:51 PM
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Wonder Boy
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2005-03-11 6:44 AM
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Darknight613
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2005-03-11 7:43 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Spiderman's secret identity, Batman's hotline)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-03-11 11:56 PM
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the G-man
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2005-03-12 1:01 AM
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Wonder Boy
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2005-05-26 8:20 AM
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the G-man
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2005-03-10 5:52 PM
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Chris Oakley
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2004-11-30 3:19 AM
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NurikoK98
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2004-11-30 3:21 AM
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rex
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2004-11-30 3:31 AM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-11-30 4:35 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-30 4:39 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Frank Miller, DKSA #1, cop killing...)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-12-10 7:31 PM
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Steve T
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2004-12-13 11:52 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-30 4:54 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (SUICIDE SQAD, Marvelman/Miracleman)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-30 6:54 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-30 7:01 AM
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Joe Mama
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2004-11-30 7:06 AM
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-30 7:59 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-30 8:48 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (JLI 51)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-30 10:34 AM
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Steve T
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2004-11-30 12:09 PM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-30 12:22 PM
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Snapman
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2004-11-30 4:24 PM
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the G-man
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2004-12-07 5:50 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Gaiman/McFarlane MM battle, SHAZAM 1953 annual, & Bob Haney )
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Wonder Boy
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2004-12-07 8:39 PM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-11-29 6:24 AM
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Darknight613
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2004-11-29 6:29 AM
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the G-man
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2005-12-11 10:30 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (the Super-Sons conclude, badly!, WORLDS FINEST 263)
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Wonder Boy
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2023-01-18 10:51 PM
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Disco Steve
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2004-06-22 6:37 PM
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Stupid Doog
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2004-06-22 11:20 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (the original topic, part 1) p2
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-23 12:00 PM
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-23 1:18 PM
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Prometheus
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2004-06-23 8:52 PM
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The Time Trust
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2004-06-24 9:02 AM
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Animalman
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2004-06-24 10:08 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-24 10:32 AM
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Chewy Walrus
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2004-06-24 12:32 PM
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Snapman
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2004-06-24 3:07 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (criticizing long posts)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-24 3:39 PM
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thedoctor
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2004-06-24 6:46 PM
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Prometheus
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2004-06-25 12:53 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-25 3:52 AM
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PenWing
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2004-06-25 5:45 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-25 12:08 PM
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Jason E. Perkins
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2004-06-25 3:15 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( THOR 364, first Frog of Thunder)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-25 4:00 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (AMAZING SPIDERMAN 289, Hobgoblin revealed, readers cheated)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-26 8:59 AM
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King Snarf
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2004-06-26 9:19 AM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-26 9:50 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Mary Marvel, JLI miniseries, ARCHIE vs PUNISHER)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-27 12:11 AM
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The Time Trust
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2004-06-27 4:29 AM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-06-27 5:00 AM
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Chant
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2004-06-27 2:04 PM
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Chant
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2004-06-27 2:06 PM
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Irwin Schwab
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2004-06-27 4:52 PM
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PixieP
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2004-06-27 9:29 PM
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-27 11:42 PM
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the G-man
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2004-06-28 12:01 AM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-06-28 12:26 AM
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Grimm
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2004-06-28 1:21 AM
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The Time Trust
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2004-06-28 1:30 AM
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King Snarf
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2004-06-28 1:45 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-28 4:58 AM
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the G-man
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2004-06-28 7:10 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-28 8:30 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Son of Mxy
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2004-06-28 8:48 AM
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First Amongst Daves
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2004-06-28 9:07 AM
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Chewy Walrus
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2004-06-28 12:17 PM
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PenWing
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2004-06-28 5:22 PM
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Ultimate Jaburg53
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2004-06-28 5:33 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (where Wolverine buried his nose) p4
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-28 5:48 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (B&B 124, other stories featuring DC staffers)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-04 1:46 PM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-07-04 8:59 PM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-07-04 9:00 PM
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the G-man
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2004-07-04 9:06 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (JLA 123/124, Bates/Maggin buffoonery, Schwartz the grouch)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-05 8:02 PM
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the G-man
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2004-07-06 4:47 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Jack Schiff BATMAN continuity, covers)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-06 5:26 PM
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the G-man
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2004-07-06 5:37 PM
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Chewy Walrus
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2004-07-05 9:59 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Grant Morrison's ANIMALMAN, commentary on Dark Age)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-06 5:57 PM
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-06 6:34 PM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-07-06 9:51 PM
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Pig Iran
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2004-07-06 10:07 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Alan Moore, Frank Miller, the Dark Age era of comics) p6
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-08 8:09 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( X-MEN 137, Death of Jean Grey, The Untold Story)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-08 10:04 PM
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-07-09 12:01 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Dark stories, easier to write than stories of a better era)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-09 12:43 AM
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the G-man
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2004-07-09 1:55 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (WORLDS FINEST 249: "The Vampire of Steel")
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-09 2:54 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-09 3:08 PM
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the G-man
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2004-07-10 5:43 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (B&B 115, BATMAN 260)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-10 9:59 PM
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the G-man
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2004-07-11 12:36 AM
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King Snarf
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2004-07-11 5:22 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-11 6:17 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (BATMAN 260 continued, THE JOKER, O'Neil, Bob Haney stories)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-11 8:51 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-11 10:06 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (BATMAN 217, Robin finally graduates high school)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-12 12:42 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-12 12:55 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-12 5:20 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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King Snarf
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2004-07-12 9:51 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Animalman
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2004-07-12 11:37 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-12 3:50 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Pig Iran
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2004-07-12 5:51 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-12 7:14 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-07-13 12:32 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Stupid Doog
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2004-07-13 1:17 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( Prf. X's undying love for Jean Grey, X-MEN issue 3) p7
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-13 3:17 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-13 3:28 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Stupid Doog
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2004-07-13 5:11 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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The Time Trust
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2004-07-13 5:54 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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King Snarf
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2004-07-13 6:28 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Snapman
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2004-07-13 3:29 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-07-17 7:32 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( the Black Racer, by Kirby)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-18 1:27 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-18 8:03 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (TIGERMAN # 1 cover)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-18 10:56 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (THOR covers, the Frog of Thunder!)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-21 6:56 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Bob Layton's HERCULES, "the Gift")
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Wonder Boy
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2004-08-12 8:03 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 MOEBIUS #0)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-09-17 6:06 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-11-08 12:51 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (JLA 113, Oct 1974)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-11 8:06 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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The Time Trust
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2004-11-11 12:31 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Steve T
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2004-11-11 1:02 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (superheroes/mythology, Superman in his declining years...)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-11-12 1:51 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 MOEBIUS #0)
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Wonder Boy
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2023-03-17 4:14 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 MOEBIUS #0)
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Wonder Boy
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2024-09-15 7:19 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2019-08-08 12:57 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2019-08-09 4:56 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2020-01-04 2:51 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2022-10-05 6:23 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2013-03-07 1:23 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Son of Mxy
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2013-03-07 3:35 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2014-12-03 9:29 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2016-02-24 1:09 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2016-10-07 2:08 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2016-11-16 6:45 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2018-02-12 8:18 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Irwin Schwab
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2004-06-28 1:08 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (WHAT IF #30 : if 'Clone lived', & #24: if 'Gwen Stacey lived')
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-27 9:15 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Shazamgrrl, original topic really popular)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-24 4:09 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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thedoctor
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2004-06-24 4:50 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Pig Iran
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2004-06-24 5:13 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( the doctor, "interrupting", the Thought Police)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-24 6:01 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Disco Steve
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2004-06-24 6:46 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( a gallery of MAD covers...)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-07-06 7:06 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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King Snarf
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2005-07-07 7:12 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (DC's ADVENTURES OF JERRY LEWIS, Neal Adams)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-07-07 9:08 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2005-07-07 10:08 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (WHAT IF 34, FANTASTIC FOUR ROAST by Hembeck)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-11-20 9:23 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Darknight613
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2005-11-21 12:00 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2005-11-21 12:25 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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The Time Trust
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2005-11-21 12:42 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Darknight613
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2005-11-21 6:20 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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rex
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2005-11-21 7:00 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Darknight613
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2005-11-21 7:04 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2005-11-21 6:34 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Darknight613
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2005-11-21 7:02 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2005-11-21 4:06 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2005-12-11 10:10 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2005-12-11 10:23 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2005-12-11 10:35 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Bruce Jones KA-ZAR) p11
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Wonder Boy
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2005-12-16 7:32 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (DET 476 cover)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-12-24 8:19 PM
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Re: WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?
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the G-man
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2005-12-29 6:36 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-12-30 10:19 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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Grimm
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2005-12-30 10:23 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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King Snarf
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2005-12-30 10:29 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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Grimm
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2005-12-30 10:33 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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King Snarf
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2005-12-30 10:35 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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rex
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2005-12-30 10:57 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (post-1994 LEGION)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-06 7:20 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION, WTF Hall of Fame)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-07 5:26 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION: wiping continuity, of a series whose fans value it most)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-07 11:58 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION: wiping continuity, of a series whose fans value it most)
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2006-01-08 7:14 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION: wiping continuity, of a series whose fans value it most)
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Matter-eater Man
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2006-01-08 7:50 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION: wiping continuity, of a series whose fans value it most)
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Jim Jackson
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2006-01-10 9:28 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION: wiping continuity, of a series whose fans value it most)
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the G-man
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2006-01-10 10:16 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( Jim Jackson: the Yalta summit, Waid LEGION)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-11 8:59 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( LEGION, WTF Hall of Fame)
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the G-man
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2006-01-08 7:31 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( "Never seen that cover before...") Maybe once or twice...p12
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-10 8:46 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( "Never seen that cover before...") Maybe once or twice...p12
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Wonder Boy
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2006-05-24 7:50 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( Dark Horse's SEX WARRIOR )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-06-04 6:23 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-06-04 8:08 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-06-06 10:31 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE # 60)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-06-07 8:08 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics ( MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE # 60)
|
Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-06-07 10:59 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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the G-man
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2006-06-07 2:47 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-06-07 7:31 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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the G-man
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2006-06-07 8:50 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-06-07 9:43 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Irwin Schwab
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2006-06-08 6:40 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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The Time Trust
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2006-06-08 1:14 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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the G-man
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2006-06-08 5:31 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Uschi
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2006-06-08 10:54 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Animalman
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2006-06-14 12:09 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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the G-man
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2006-06-14 12:14 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (HANSI THE GIRL WHO LOVED THE SWASTIKA )
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Animalman
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2006-06-14 12:32 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (Civil War)
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the G-man
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2006-06-15 7:44 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (CAPTAIN AMERICA: MADBOMB)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-07-05 1:10 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-01-09 2:28 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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the G-man
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2006-01-09 7:05 PM
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Re: And All Star Superman sucks...
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2006-01-09 8:23 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (WTF OF THE YEAR-2005?)
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the G-man
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2006-01-09 8:40 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (G-man's Batman/Alfred/Bathound WTF))
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-10 5:54 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (G-man's Batman/Alfred/Bathound WTF))
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-01-10 9:57 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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the G-man
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2006-01-10 6:44 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-01-11 1:06 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (Starlin's DREADSTAR, great till 'Plan M')
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-15 5:36 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (Dreadstar's faggy new costume)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-16 4:53 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (Dreadstar's faggy new costume)
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2006-01-16 5:21 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (Dreadstar, a particularly swishy pose)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-16 6:45 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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the G-man
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2006-01-16 5:12 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( HULK 23, Shooter's gay rape of Banner)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-17 6:56 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2006-01-17 6:44 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Killconey
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2006-01-17 10:11 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2006-01-17 11:59 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Danny
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2006-01-18 6:12 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (the Kirby/DC management Fourth World conspiracy)
|
Wonder Boy
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2006-01-19 10:34 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (the Kirby/DC management Fourth World conspiracy)
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Jim Jackson
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2006-01-21 12:39 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (the Kirby/DC management Fourth World conspiracy)
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the G-man
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2006-01-21 1:17 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (DC management Fourth World conspiracy, 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll...)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-21 10:27 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (DC management Fourth World conspiracy, 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll...)
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Jim Jackson
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2006-01-22 8:58 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (DC management Fourth World conspiracy, 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll...)
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the G-man
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2006-01-22 9:00 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (Nothing is permanent in comics, ANYTHING can be retconned.) p13
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-23 7:41 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (Infinitely retconnable western comics, + some good ones.)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-01-28 3:05 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (Byrne ALPHA FLIGHT, Puck )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-02-26 2:05 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (Byrne ALPHA FLIGHT, Puck )
|
allan1
|
2006-02-26 3:53 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF comics (ALIEN ENCOUNTERS, Zeck Superman origin parody)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-05-09 11:40 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( HULK 23, Shooter's gay rape of Banner)
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ROY BATTY
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2006-05-11 1:24 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( HULK 23, Shooter's gay rape of Banner)
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the G-man
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2006-05-11 2:24 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( HULK 23, Shooter's gay rape of Banner)
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-05-11 8:09 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( LOIS LANE, black chick ! )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-05-13 7:28 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( LOIS LANE, black chick ! )
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the G-man
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2006-05-13 7:37 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( LOIS LANE, black chick ! )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-05-13 9:15 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( the Marvel Bullpen FF )
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Wonder Boy
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2006-05-21 6:31 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( the Marvel Bullpen FF )
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Grimm
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2006-06-08 8:37 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( LOIS LANE, black chick ! )
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Wonder Boy
|
2010-02-24 10:18 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics( HULK 23, Shooter's gay rape of Banner)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-05-11 8:05 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-01-22 4:26 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-01-22 4:33 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2006-01-22 4:37 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in comics (G-man's Batman/Alfred/Bathound WTF))
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2006-01-10 8:02 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 ( *bad* WTF: DC's annual crossover events)
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Wonder Boy
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2005-12-11 9:56 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics (every guy wants, every guy needs...)
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Wonder Boy
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2006-09-15 6:56 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
|
Dabney Donovan
|
2006-09-20 9:42 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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Wonder Boy
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2007-04-06 12:23 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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the G-man
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2007-04-06 7:58 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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PixieP
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2004-06-21 5:43 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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THE Franta
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2004-06-27 3:36 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-27 5:09 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Shazamgrrl, old topic, AM SPIDERMAN 289, better spoilers )
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-27 5:39 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Stupid Doog
|
2004-06-27 5:43 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (HOBGOBLIN LIVES)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-27 5:49 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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King Snarf
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2004-06-27 7:55 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (Shazamgrrl, old topic, AM SPIDERMAN 289, better spoilers )
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Wonder Boy
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2023-07-06 12:52 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-06-27 5:39 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-06-29 9:36 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
|
the G-man
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2004-06-30 4:21 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (SPIDERMAN Hobgoblin fiasco, Kirby HUNGER DOGS)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-06-30 6:59 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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The Time Trust
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2004-07-01 3:51 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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King Snarf
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2004-07-01 4:40 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (JLI/JLE, some great WTF moments) p5
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-01 2:26 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-07-02 1:42 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-02 3:43 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (THREE STOOGES 1)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-02 4:19 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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2004-07-03 4:08 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Pig Iran
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2004-07-03 6:43 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-07-03 12:20 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Snapman
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2004-07-02 7:10 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-02 9:05 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-07-02 9:27 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2 (THREE STOOGES 1, 2, 3)
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Wonder Boy
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2004-07-02 10:02 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Pig Iran
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2004-07-02 10:03 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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ShazamGrrl1
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2004-07-03 12:11 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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the G-man
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2004-07-03 3:59 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, theme, from p5
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Wonder Boy
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2007-04-09 2:19 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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Wonder Boy
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2007-04-09 2:44 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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Wonder Boy
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2007-05-05 4:35 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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Wonder Boy
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2007-05-16 7:46 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2007-05-16 8:07 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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rex
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2007-05-17 2:08 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics
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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
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2007-05-17 2:51 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics (rex and ray: WTF ?)
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Wonder Boy
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2007-05-17 8:26 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics (rex and ray: WTF ?)
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rex
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2007-05-18 4:07 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2022-10-18 5:39 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2022-11-07 11:35 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2023-09-14 11:15 PM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2024-07-15 12:32 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Stupid Doog
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2025-04-13 2:59 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2025-04-13 10:10 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2024-07-15 2:18 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2024-08-06 3:51 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2024-08-06 3:59 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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First Amongst Daves
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2024-08-13 3:21 AM
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Re: Biggest WTF in Comics, Redux v.2
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Wonder Boy
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2025-04-10 3:58 PM
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..way harsh doc....