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Cablevision: Proposed law unconstitutional BY MATTHEW FUTTERMAN Star-Ledger Staff A New Jersey state senator may have proposed legislation that could ultimately end the YES Network's dispute with Cablevision, the state's second-largest cable company, but the network's chief executive has this advice for Yankees fans who get their television service from Cablevision: Best to buy a satellite dish if you want to watch all the games this season, Leo Hindery, Jr. said yesterday. The advice came less than a week after Sen. William Gormley (R-Atlantic) submitted legislation that would force cable companies that own sports networks, such as Cablevision, to place rival sports networks, such as YES, on their expanded basic cable system. The law is aimed at ending the 15-month dispute between Cablevision and YES, the broadcast home of the Yankees and Nets. YES wants Cablevision to pay a monthly fee of $2 per subscriber for the right to carry YES. Cablevision has offered to make YES a premium channel on its system and to allow YES to set the price. It also has offered to sell YES the same way it sells MSG and FSNY, which are premium channels for some Cablevision customers and expanded basic channels for others. Charlie Schueler, a spokesman for Cablevision, called the proposed law "unconstitutional" and said it was "a transparent attempt by the YES Network to force all CVC customers, whether or not they want Yankee games, to pay for the most expensive new network in cable television history." Hindery said the proposed law could encourage Cablevision to accept the same terms for YES every other cable provider in the region and the satellite service DirecTV accepted. YES has filed a federal anti-trust suit against Cablevision, which is currently the subject of state anti-trust investigation. "I'm thrilled because I believe so strongly that you shouldn't be able to discriminate," Hindery said of the proposed law. A state Senate committee is scheduled to consider the bill on March 10. The legislation would then have to be approved by the full Senate and the General Assembly and get signed by Gov. James E. McGreevey before it becomes law. Hindery said that process that would likely stretch beyond Opening Day on April 1.
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#31849
2003-02-01 6:45 PM
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i live 2 miles from yankee stadium and 2 miles from the meadowlands, and yet...
i cant watch yankee games or nets games.
gotta love that.
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#31850
2003-02-02 12:54 AM
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Actually, I do!
No, sorry...
I wish I could say I know how you feel, but the only teams they don't show around here is The Blackhawks, and it's been so long since anybody has seen them on teevee, nobody cares. As a matter of fact, there's a whole generation of kids growing up who have probably never seen a home Hawks game on TV...Their loss, not mine...
But this brings to mind something else. Baseball games on radio. I'm telling you, there's nothing better than listening to a good announcer broadcasting a game on the radio. A good announcer can make you feel like you're sitting in the ballpark. I really enjoy it. I started doing it after Steve Stone left The Cubs broadcast booth a few years back. Joe Carter got on my nerves so much I would turn the sound off on the TV and turn up the radio whenever the game was on. Because the radio announcers have to spend more time describing what's actually happening, there's a lot less bullshit blabbering going on. And believe me, if there was one thing that Joe Carter could do, it was babbling...I don't know what I'm gonna do now that Stoney is coming back to start calling the Cubbies games again. It was a real treat listening to him on the radio when Ron Santo was too ill to work the past few summers. It's actually kind of nice to have that option...
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#31851
2003-02-02 1:00 AM
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....i remember when i was a kid we would open the door on the car in the driveway turn the radio up and lay in the yard, looking at the stars and listen to Reds games when they were on the West Coast. It was much better than tv, of course we had Marty Brenaman and Joe Nuxhall calling the games, who are a top notch team, if it had been Tim McCarver or somesuch moron it prolly woulda sucked......
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#31852
2003-02-02 1:22 AM
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2002 was my first non-yanks, non-nets year.
2003 may or may not be the second.
i live close as hell to both stadiums, so for me, its retarded. the other lifelong fan of those teams, my father, lives about an hour from me... but he has a cablevision affiliate too, and thus, is also robbed of the games.
thanks cablevision!
growing up, the yankees used to have great tv guys, like tommy john, bobby mercer, tom seaver, and, of course, phil rizzuto. they were just fun to listen to. but since switching channels (from their 50 years on wpix, to 2 on msg, to 2 on fox, and now 1 on cbs and yes) they've lost most all of the good guys.
mccarver isnt bad. joe buck isnt bad. i like the few games costas does, cuz he's a big yankee fan. but, its not the same as the old days.
... not that i'd even know anymore, of course.
as for radio, there's not great radio reception in my apartment or at work.
plus, i hate the yankee radio announcers -- always have. when the yanks sucked 10+ years ago, they were the first guys to rank on them, and nitpick the hell out of them. didnt make the games exciting when my dad and i would hear them say "it'll take 2 to tie, but... that wont happen"
i used to listen to the internet broadcast at work 2 years ago. it was the radio broadcast streamed over the web with about a 30 second delay. regardless of crappy announcers, it was pretty cool to listen to the game at work.
... but then, of course, MLB decided free was too good, so they made all internet broadcasts for the games a pay service.
thats just wonderful.
y'never realize how much you miss just hangin around and watching the game (any one of the 162) until they're all taken away from you.
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2003-02-02 1:59 AM
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2003-02-07 2:27 PM
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YES takes case to fansThe YES Network is buying full- page newspaper ads across the region to accuse Cablevision of refusing to allow a court-appointed mediator to settle an ongoing dispute between the companies. In an open letter to sports fans, YES Chief Executive Leo Hindery Jr. said if "Cablevision is equally confident that it is behaving reasonably ... then it should agree to allow a third party to decide. If Cablevision refuses this offer, we have to believe it is its anti-competitive behavior that prevents an agreement." Cablevision, the Long Island- based sports and entertainment conglomerate, is the only cable provider in the region not paying YES's $2 monthly subscriber fee. That has left nearly 3 million households without most Yankees and Nets games, while also saving them from an additional rate increase. Cablevision spokesman Charlie Schueler said his company would not enter mediation while the YES Network's federal antitrust lawsuit against Cablevision was still pending. "If they were serious about mediation, they would drop the lawsuit," Schueler said. The latest offensive comes as a proposal that could force Cablevision to put YES on its expanded basic cable system progresses through the Legislature. State Attorney General Peter Harvey also continues his antitrust investigation into the company's business practices. YES picked up additional support yesterday from Bergen County Executive Dennis McNerney, who said, "County residents who are Cablevision subscribers deserve to know why Cablevision is stonewalling its customers and why this dispute has dragged on for 16 months." -- Matthew Futterman
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2003-02-07 2:30 PM
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Pitchers and catchers must be due in spring training soon because the dispute between the YES Network and Cablevision Systems Corporation is heating up again.
With legislation that would force Cablevision to add YES to its expanded basic package progressing through the New Jersey legislature, Cablevision officials struck back yesterday. The company accused YES and its parent company, YankeeNets, of charging outrageous fees for the network, even though Cablevision's own sports networks, MSG and Fox Sports New York, will collect similar fees during the next decade, according to YES chief executive Leo Hindery Jr.
"It's hypocrisy, pure and simple," Hindery said.
Cablevision officials criticized recent claims by Hindery that Cablevision Chairman Charles Dolan had left the bargaining table last month when a deal to end the 16-month dispute was within reach.
Every other cable provider in the region and DirecTV have accepted the YES Network's monthly fee of $2 per subscriber, although that fee increases roughly 5 percent annually. Cable companies generally pass those fees to their subscribers with rate increases.
According to officials involved with the negotiations, Hindery offered to drop its monthly fee to 55 cents for the first nine months of this year. In October, the fee would rise to $1.25. By April of next year, the fee would reach $2.29 and top out at $4.55 on the 10th and final year of the agreement.
"We think it is important to understand that in their most recent offer, the Yankees are demanding $1 billion from Cablevision customers over the next 10 years," said Charlie Schueler, chief spokesman for the Long Island-based conglomerate. "This is a staggering and blatant money grab by the YES Network and its investors."
In response, Hindery said Cablevision will collect nearly $2 billion in fees for its two sports networks during the same period of time.
"Cablevision continues to try to deflect attention away from its own usurious and anti-competitive business practices," Hindery said.
Cablevision spokesman Jim Maiella said Hindery had grossly exagerrated the MSG and FSNY fees.
New Jersey's General Assembly may vote to pass legislation that would prohibit Cablevision from keeping YES off its system as soon as next week. The state Senate is expected to take up the matter next month.
Also, Attorney General Peter Harvey is continuing to investigate allegations of anti-trust violations by Cablevision in its dealings with YES.
"I think they're starting to get scared," Hindery said. "This stuff has their attention."
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2003-03-04 1:54 PM
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YES Network wins support in Assembly Bill would force Cablevision to carry Yanks and Nets games BY TOM HESTER
Star-Ledger StaffThe Assembly yesterday passed a bill designed to compel Cablevision -- New Jersey's second-largest cable TV system -- to broadcast Yankees and Nets games carried by the YES Network. Despite the 47-20 vote, both sides in the 16-month dispute continued to spar in public. The fight between the two companies has prevented 1.3 million Cablevision subscribers, mainly in Essex, Middlesex and Bergen counties, from viewing the teams' telecasts. Cablevision is the only cable provider in the region that has refused to pay YES its required monthly fee of $2 per subscriber to carry the channel in its expanded basic package. Cablevision would prefer to carry YES as a premium channel so those customers who want it would have to pay. Under the bill, if Cablevision failed to seek a settlement, the cable outlet could be held in violation of New Jersey's anti-trust act. Assemblyman Paul Sarlo (D-Bergen), a prime sponsor, said the main reason for the bill is to encourage Cablevision and YES to negotiate. "For the past 16 months, the bickering between Cablevision and the YES Network has kept millions of loyal fans from watching their favorite teams compete," Sarlo said. "It's time the state went to bat for all the fans who just want to watch the ballgame in the comfort of their homes." Opponents and critics of the bill also fought over its constitutionality. The state's non-partisan Office of Legislative Services noted that despite recent changes to the bill, it would be unconstitutional and that operation of cable TV is a federal matter. Sarlo countered with an opinion by federal anti-trust expert David Boies, who called it "completely consistent with the purposes and prohibitions of the (U.S.) Cable Act and federal antitrust laws ... (and) adds additional state remedies to the tools that can prevent consumer harm." Cablevision lobbyists yesterday sought changes to the bill that would call for the YES Network to cover the costs of providing Yankees' and Nets' coverage and that the broadcasts be offered only to subscribers who would want it. The Assembly rejected this. "If I was campaigning to get the Do It Yourself Network on, this would not be an issue today," said Clare M. Farragher (R-Monmouth), who offered the changes. "The Legislature should not be involved in this." Cablevision lobbyists and officials said they would take their fight to the Senate, where proponents are pushing for a vote this month. "We do not understand why any Assembly member would waste their time with this transparent attempt by the YES Network to force all Cablevision customers, whether they want to pay for the games or not, to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to the YES Network and its investors," said Charlie Schueler, a Cablevision spokesman. "Cablevision wants to reach an agreement to carry the YES Network and has made numerous valid and viable proposals." Leo Hindery Jr., YES Network chairman, said after the vote, "We are extremely grateful to the Assembly for passing this legislation on behalf of the cable consumer of New Jersey ... We still believe that meaningful negotiations between Cablevision and YES would be the quickest way to resolution and we believe that this legislation will now enhance that prospect." Democrats voted 38-0 in favor of the bill. Nineteen Republicans voted no; nine voted yes. Assemblyman Matthew Ahearn of the Green Party voted against the bill.
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2003-03-04 1:56 PM
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![[woooOOOOoooo!]](graemlins/smilewoo.gif) woooo! this whole thing is actually getting really twisted. even more so than it already is. cablevision is now airing commercials (on their channels, of course) against this YES court case. the ads are done in the SAME exact fashion that presidential campaigns are run. you know the ones that first show the opponent, play all the scaaaaAAaaary background music, show the oppenent murdering someone in a dramatisation... then show the good guys with the happy music, and a white guy shaking hands happily with a black guy. THAT kind of commercial, i kid you not. it totally looks like SNL produced it. cablevision is such an ass hole company.
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2003-03-05 4:21 AM
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CABLEVISION FUCKING SUCKS!!!
If you don't have Digital iO you lose all of your movie channels and premium channels.
But what they do not tell you is this: If your house is old and you still have copper wiring, you can't have iO.
So unless you re-wire your entire house, you are stuck with Basic Cable by the end of the year.
Basic Cable these days is 1-22 minus 1, 3 and 6.
So I lose Raw, Yanks, Sopranos, Curb Your Enthusiasm...EVERYTHING WORTH WATCHING!!!
I hate Cablevision and hope it dies a slow painful death!!!!
TO HELL WITH CABLEVISION!!!
LONG LIVE SOMETHING BETTER!!!
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2003-03-05 3:02 PM
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unfortunately, for most people, including me, there IS no other option. cable companies are monopolies. thats why my bill is roughly 100/month and my service is worth 1/10 of that. they can do whatever they want, and im screwed in the process.
the only, rare, iffy possibility right now for an alternative would be directTV.
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2003-03-07 4:01 AM
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I'm so pissed at the thought of another season not being watched. I'm close to getting Direct TV but people tell me that shit like trees and bad weather can screw up the reception. Well, here's to another season listening on the radio. Cablevision blows and everytime they call me I let them know it.
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2003-03-07 3:28 PM
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heya slacker! i'm in the same sorta situation, as i dont know much about satellite, but it seems like the only viable alternative (to cablevision's suckiness) i made a thread about it here and got some helpful advice -- might be of use to you, too!
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2003-03-13 2:25 AM
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YES, Cablevision reach deal in cable warNew York (AP) — The YES Network and Cablevision reached an interim deal Wednesday, resolving a year-old dispute that threatened to wipe out another season of New York Yankees’ telecasts for 3 million viewers. Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced the agreement at Gracie Mansion. It followed two weeks of meetings between sides that had refused to sit in the same room for months. “It’s a great thing for Yankees’ fans, and it’s really great for my wife,” said Yankees coach Don Zimmer, who lives in a Westchester area serviced by Cablevision. “She was just sick that she couldn’t watch our games last year. She’ll be thrilled, because now she can see me every night.” Details for consumers were still being worked out. “We ask you to be patient on details,” Cablevision Systems Corp. chairman Jim Dolan said. “The two parties have today reached a one-year interim agreement, effective March 31 — the start of the baseball season,” said Bloomberg, who earlier this week helped orchestrate the settlement of a strike by Broadway musicians. If no long-term deal is worked out over the next year, the sides will submit to binding arbitration on April 1, 2004. Bloomberg had urged both sides to resolve their differences before the start of another baseball season. Cablevision had refused to carry the YES Network on its cable systems since its debut last April. In late February, the combatants agreed to mediation by Gerald Levin, former chief executive officer of AOL-Time Warner Inc., and Richard Aurelio, the founder of New York One News. YES has exclusive rights to most Yankees games. The battle over broadcasting those games cost each side tens of millions of dollars. “It’s an agreement for the fans,” YES CEO Leo Hindery said. YES insisted on being carried on basic cable, a request that 35 regional cable companies with five million customers agreed to. Cablevision instead wanted to make YES a premium network and charge subscribers $2 a month. The YES Network lost more than $60 million in subscriber fees, and tens of millions more in advertising. Cablevision lost 39,400 subscribers last year. YES is owned by YankeeNets, which owns the Yankees, the New Jersey Nets and the New Jersey Devils. The network, in addition to airing the Yankees and the Nets, also broadcasts Seton Hall basketball. The YES Network went on the air last April. Cablevision owns Madison Square Garden, the MSG Network, and the New York Knicks and Rangers; before YES debuted, the Yankees appeared on MSG.
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2003-03-13 2:26 AM
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I GET TO WATCH YANKEE GAMES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2003-03-13 2:50 AM
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I know that, I'm not stupid.
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2003-03-13 2:56 AM
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2003-03-13 3:03 AM
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2003-03-13 3:57 AM
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2003-03-13 1:47 PM
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2003-03-15 4:22 AM
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MARCH 14TH, 2003
Earlier this week, Cablevision reached a deal with the Yankees Entertainment and Sports Network, agreeing to carry the channel as part of its basic cable service – but what does that mean for viewers?
If you already pay extra for Cablevision's premium programming packages, you will get YES at no extra cost.
If not, you can choose a premium regional sports package for $4.95 a month. That package will include YES, MSG Network and Fox Sports Net New York, which will no longer be part of the basic package. Or you can choose those channels "a la carte" for a $1.95 each.
Cablevision will have to pay YES $2.12 per subscriber but says it expects to offset costs through advertising deals.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg helped Cablevision and the YES Network reach a resolution to the one-year standoff.
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2003-03-29 1:19 AM
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quote:
Friday, March 28
YES Network, Cablevision break off talks
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NEW YORK -- The YES Network and Cablevision walked away Friday from their agreement, leaving 3 million homes without the New York Yankees on television for the start of a second straight season.
YES pulls plug on show
The YES Network pulled the plug, albeit only for 45 minutes, on a New York radio show it simulcasts.
According to Sports Business Daily, as WFAN radio's "Mike and the Mad Dog" were preparing to interview Cablevision Systems Corp. president James L. Dolan, YES pulled the radio show's simulcast. According to co-host Mike Francesca, the simulcast was pulled because YES wanted YES chairman Leo Hindery to be interviewed first. The simulcast returned about 45 minutes later.
YES simulcasts Francesa and Chris Russo's popular daytime sports talk show five afternoons a week.
Following the return of the simulcast, according to Sports Business Daily, Francesa said on-air, "We run a straight show here. We are going to put the people on. For you guys (YES) to be so afraid to pull us off the air because you asked that we do (the interview) in the order you prefer. … YES asked us, 'Could Leo come on first?' And he couldn't come on until after 3:15. And we'd already made an agreement with Dolan to put him on. … I wasn't going to go back to Cablevision and tell them, 'Sorry, I'm on the YES Network, so I have to put the YES guys on first.' "
Each side blamed the other, alleging last-minute maneuvers to change the terms of a one-year agreement announced March 12.
"We're still going to play, but it's unfortunate because I know I had family members and friends that were looking forward to that,'' Yankees manager Joe Torre said. "They were excited about it. I don't know all the workings, but evidently when they put it down on paper it wasn't the same thing that they were talking about.''
Pitcher Mike Mussina joked at the time of the tentative agreement that he would sell his satellite dish. Mussina said Friday he didn't sell it.
"There you have it -- the three-week deal,'' Mussina said.
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who had helped negotiate the one-year deal, announced the cancellation Friday, three days before the Yankees' opener.
"Unfortunately, at the moment, Cablevision and the YES Network are unable to agree on the details of the previously announced agreement,'' the mayor said.
The March 12 deal was described at the time as an interim deal that would allow fans to see this year's games while the two sides negotiated a longer-term deal. A pricing dispute had kept Yankee games off Cablevision all of last year, the debut season of the YES Network.
Fans with Cablevision service, including residents around Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, had been signing up in recent days for the YES Network, which Cablevision was offering -- and advertising -- for as little as $1.95 a month. As late as Friday afternoon, the cable company was still taking orders for the service.
"It's the fans who lose out,'' YES chairman Leo Hindery said.
"We share the frustration of Yankees fans,'' Cablevision Systems Corp. president James Dolan said.
Both sides said they were willing to negotiate further, but expressed doubt that anything could happen in time for Opening Day. YES lawyer David Boies said the network's federal lawsuit against Cablevision will proceed.
Dolan said Cablevision was insisting on the terms that were agreed to the day of Bloomberg's announcement -- but YES submitted a different document two days later.
Dolan claimed Yankees owner George Steinbrenner had "reneged.'' A representative for Steinbrenner did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
"They want a whole lot more money and they really don't want to go to arbitration,'' Dolan said. "But if they do agree to go to arbitration, they don't want anybody to see how much money they are making.''
Hindery said Steinbrenner was not involved in the negotiations. Hindery said the March 14 document simply codified a handwritten one into legal language and had accommodated Cablevision's concerns.
"There is not a single change we were asked to make that we have not made,' he said. He said he had expected to sign a final agreement by Friday night and had "no clue'' why Cablevision refused.
While Cablevision is a cable distributor, it is also a programmer, with sports channels including Fox Sports New York and the MSG Network. In the interim agreement it had agreed to make YES available in the same manner as its sports channels.
Two mediators involved in the talks, Richard Aurelio and Gerald Levin, issued a statement saying: "We expect the parties to abide by the interim agreement reached on March 12 and announced to the public.'' Most of the issues in dispute involve long-term and arbitration-related issues, they said, for which there is "ample time to resolve.''
YES is controlled by YankeeNets, the sports media company that owns the Yankees, the New Jersey Nets and the New Jersey Devils. The network has exclusive rights to most Yankee games.
Last season's dispute cost the YES Network more than $60 million in subscriber fees, and tens of millions more in advertising. Cablevision lost 39,400 subscribers last year.
The YES Network went on the air last April. Cablevision owns Madison Square Garden, the MSG Network, and the New York Knicks and Rangers. The Yankees appeared on the MSG Network for 13 seasons before 2002.
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2003-03-29 1:21 AM
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2003-03-29 5:31 PM
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amazingly, both sides are claiming the other is reneging on the same deal
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2003-03-29 5:39 PM
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Some asshole bought a 3 reciver Direct TV system from me and returned it two days later when Cablevision and YES annnounced thier deal.
I work on commision so that sucks. Big time.
It's not like I work at Pc Richards or Circut City where everysale is a big sale.
So while I feel for you Rob that asshat got what he deserved.
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2003-03-29 5:45 PM
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Rob don't fear Direct TV.
I have had it.
I sell it.
And if you got clearview of southeast or southwest sky (I forget which) you most likely will neve have a problem unless snow covers the entire dish.
Or shell out an extra 15 bucks for a dish cover.
Your only problem would be if Cablevision is also your ISP.
Which I don't think it is because u can't host a web site off of it.
But then again I know you CAN host a site with so.........
that problem being the cost of Optimum Online going up to 50 bucks.
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#31875
2003-03-31 7:46 PM
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Yankees: YES makes offer to save openerBY MATTHEW FUTTERMAN
Star-Ledger Staff In an effort to salvage Opening Day for millions of Yankees fans across the region, the YES Network yesterday proposed that Cablevision Systems Corp. put the team's games on for three months while the two sides plead their case to a panel of three binding arbitrators. The one-page offer came less than 24 hours after the companies squared off in a public, mud-slinging exhibition when a tentative deal fell through just 72 hours before the Yankees open the season in Toronto tomorrow night. Cablevision officials declined comment. However, the proposal is similar to offers Leo Hindery Jr., chief executive at YES, has made and Cablevision has rejected for the past year in which he asked Cablevision to "test drive" his network. The collapse of the deal left Yankees fans in 2.8 million Cablevision households in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut doomed to a second consecutive season of possibly missing 130 televised games. Hindery said yesterday's proposal was an effort "to cut through the confusion about who is responsible for the controversy. We have given a simple, straightforward, executed agreement to Cablevision." The proposal has three main provisions: - Cablevision to put YES on its system beginning tomorrow.
- Cablevision to pay the YES network the same amount Cablevision will receive from Time Warner Cable and Comcast -- about $2.12 per subscriber each month.
- The two sides to enter a binding arbitration immediately that would force the companies to accept a decision on how much Cablevision should pay to carry the YES Network.
Hindery said he spoke with Cablevision CEO James Dolan through an intermediary yesterday and the two sides agreed on the rules that would allow the arbitrators to consider only the comparable pricing of other regional sports networks. Cablevision had wanted the arbitrators to consider how profitable YES was, but YES investors do not like the idea of opening the company's books to outsiders.
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#31876
2003-03-31 7:49 PM
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Yankees: YES, Cablevision negotiate into the late-evening hours BY MATTHEW FUTTERMAN Star-Ledger Staff With the clock ticking down to the first pitch, executives with the YES Network and Cablevision Systems Corp. negotiated into the night trying to reach a deal that would deliver most Yankees games to 2.8 million area households. Both companies said little publicly or privately about discussions between Leo Hindery Jr., the chief executive at YES, and James Dolan, his counterpart at Cablevision. From Our Advertisers "I can't talk right now," said a tense Hindery just before 9 p.m. Hindery spent most of the weekend at the network's headquarters in midtown Manhattan. Charlie Schueler, a spokesman for Cablevision, also declined to comment about the negotiations. Both sides are desperate to break a 16-month impasse that kept Cablevision customers -- 1 million of them in New Jersey -- from seeing 130 Yankees games last season and has put this season in jeopardy as well. However, it was clear Cablevision was resisting Hindery's offer Saturday for Cablevision to carry YES for 90 days at the same monthly rate of roughly $2.10 per subscriber that Time Warner Cable and Comcast are paying for the network. Under Hindery's suggested terms, the two sides would immediately enter binding arbitration to reach a long-term agreement.
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#31877
2003-04-01 12:17 AM
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Cablevision and the YES Network struck a deal Monday to bring New York Yankees games to the cable system’s 3 million subscribers.
The deal was reached less than two hours before the Yankees opened their 2003 season in Toronto against the Blue Jays — a game televised by YES.
“The deal is good for each of the businesses involved, good for consumers and good for Yankees fans, who will again be able to watch their team on television,” state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said in a statement.
For Cablevision customers, the deal averted the prospect of a second consecutive season without the vast majority of Yankee games. All but two of the Yankees’ first 51 games in 2003 are scheduled to air on YES.
“This was a long and difficult negotiation, and we are extremely grateful to our customers for sticking with us as we fought to reach an agreement that preserved the ability of Cablevision customers to choose whether or not to receive the YES Network,” Cablevision said in a statement.
YES did not immediately comment on the deal.
When YES went on the air last year, it insisted on being offered as a basic cable channel — and 35 regional cable companies serving 5 million customers agreed to the request. Cablevision wanted customers to pay extra for the service.
The two sides struck a temporary deal March 12, agreeing to keep negotiating and allowing Cablevision subscribers to pay $1.95 per month for YES in the meantime.
Cablevision and YES agreed at the time to go to arbitration if they had no permanent deal by April 1, 2004.
But the bitter dispute flared again Friday when the two sides walked away from the temporary agreement, saying it was doubtful a deal could be done by opening day.
YES is controlled by YankeeNets, the sports media company that owns the Yankees, the New Jersey Nets and the New Jersey Devils. The network has exclusive rights to most Yankee games.
Last season’s dispute cost the YES Network more than $60 million in subscriber fees and tens of millions more in advertising. Cablevision lost 39,400 subscribers last year.
Cablevision owns Madison Square Garden, the MSG Network and the New York Knicks and Rangers. The Yankees appeared on MSG for 13 seasons before 2002.
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#31878
2003-04-01 12:17 AM
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I GOT THE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!
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#31879
2003-04-01 12:56 AM
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soriano smacks a slammer in a game i didnt even know i could watch up until an hour ago!
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#31880
2003-04-02 12:49 AM
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Hey Rob, first we get good news then we get screwed and no we get what we wanted all along-some good fucking baseball. I was ready to light my IO digital box on fire and throw it into Cablevision. 10 runs today without Jeter, not bad at all.
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#31881
2003-04-02 2:35 AM
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yeah, i couldnt believe the deal was falling through. that was incredibly frustrating to hear -- at first, i thought my buddies at work were just messin with me.
and, actually, i didnt even know that we had YES network again until the start of the second inning, when i just happened to be flipping thru the channels -- great timing :)
losing jeter is bad, tho. anyone can beat up on toronto, we'll need derek for the big games.
reports today say he might be out for about 4 weeks, but its possible, if surgery is necessary, that could jump to 4 months.
not good.
regardless....
its great to finally have the yankees back!!!!!
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