RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Comic Books Identity Crisis # 3 (SPOILERS)

I don't see how your protest is valid since you wouldn't have bought it anyway. It's like me saying I'm going to boycott Rolls-Royce by not buying any of their $300,000+ cars.

And, honestly, I find your stance very hypocritical. You yourself have been very vocal about moving comics beyond the cliche superhero standards and growing to feed all types of hungers demanded in the medium. Now, you're claiming that a comic isn't superheroey enough? How is a fantasy murder or beating anymore acceptable than fantasy rape? And would you be opposed to a rape scene in a movie or a book? If comics are to grow, then you can't box them into a certain set of guidelines. It's been done before. Remember the Comics Code Authority?

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Dave said:
Like I said, I wouldn't have been as bothered if it was Ralph. There is no fantasy for the straight superhero audience in a superhero getting raped by a man - it would have shown Dr Light's utter deprivity. But instead, a defenceless female character cops it. I don't think that's sending a good message, and is using a rape fantasy to sell a comic.

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But what about the gay superhero audience? And Dr. Light raping a woman isn't enough deprivity for you? And did you ever think that her defenselessness is part of the overall meaning of the story? Especially when you consider that she was raped on the JLA satellite and killed inside her own apartment with higher security than Fort Knox.

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thedoctor said:
They're not using rape to sell the books. They're using the fact that murders are going to involve the JLA and it's secrets. No one knew about the rape until they read issue two. That's not really using it to sell a book, now is it?

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Yes it is, because people talk. The hype generated by the rape had certainly convinced some people to buy the series, started with issue 2.

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Does that mean when everyone was talking about how the tires on Ford Explorers would wear out and explode on the road, causing wrecks, that Ford was using the faulty tires to sell more Explorers?

I've seen more people say they've dropped the book because of that scene than, "Hey! Sue got raped?! Man, I need to get me that!" As far as I know, DC never said anything about this scene before the book. I haven't seen anything about it from then since this issue hit the stands. Fans talk. They're no more using this scene to sell the series than they are letting unhappy fan buzz kill it. They just put it out there and let it go.

And just to kill any attempt at a flame war, I understand that it's your opinion. I just think some really good questions have been raised in your arguement, and I want to raise the temperature of the debate a bit so that we can roast smores later on. Also, I understand your well documented bias against superhero books in this forum and was weireded out by a slight about-face concerning this series. Besides, you'd do better off using your biases like I do and reserving them for minorities and women.