Quote: thedoctor said: Dave, I still say you're wrong. DC has been creating and marketing books towards older audiences for years for the disposable income and the decreaseing young fanbase. So your arguement that DC markets to adolescent male fantasies just doesn't hold water.
On the contrary, DC has in recent years been marketing its main characters to a very young audience, with the Adventures stories.
DC has also tried to appeal to older audiences through Vertigo, and obvious I'm very cool with that.
But you'll never see the Justice League in a Vertigo comic. Yet, now the Justice League, without warning, are in a comic with a graphic rape scene.
What you are saying, I think, is that DC no longer push its mainstream stuff (ie not Vertigo, not Adventures) on horny teenage boys. The demographic has shifted upwards. That still means they're publishing adolescent fantasies, though, just that not all of the readers engaging in the adolescent fantasies are horny teenage boys. It still means the rape is pitched as an adolescent fantasy.
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So violence against women is wrong, but violence against men isn't. All you've thrown out is arguements using a double standard. You also ignore the fact that Metzler built up Sue as a character the reader cares about before doing all of this. It doesn't say that raping women is acceptable. If anything, it shows that it's a horrible act that will wind up being punished harshly.
No, you missed my point. My point in my third argument is that if a rape was essential to the plot, why not rape a man for a change? Why do women always receive the violence in superhero comics?