Quote: Captain Sammitch said: For the record, I don't care that Danny wanted to have a little fun with my character. I was upset because I was just about to post and it derailed everything I wanted to do (with more characters than just mine).
It's called being flexible. I can't count the number of times I've had to change something I wanted to do because someone else got to posting ahead of me. You learn to deal.
Quote: I would also like to point out that there's a difference between showing a character is fallible and making that character into a pathetic loser. Note that if I did something like that with someone else's character (which I am always careful to avoid), people would be pissed off at me. The reason I don't do an incredible amount with other characters is because I am trying to be sensitive to what those characters' posters want and what they're trying to do. All I want is the same courtesy - especially when it's difficult for me to post regularly for whatever reason.
If you don't post with other people's characters, how can you be expected to grow as a writer and be seen as anything other than egomaniacal?
You don't know exactly how to write a character? Send a PM! I'm sure that any writer here would love to help you find a way to write their characters correctly, because - believe me - they want you to get their characters right as much (if not more) than you do. Don't be too proud to ask questions. That's how you learn.
Quote: I don't have a problem with Danny having fun with my character(s) - he's done it before and I haven't complained. Danny is a talented writer and has written some of the funniest stuff on these boards. I just wasn't in a hurry to see anyone go to the greatest length possible to make one character completely useless and pointless.
It's in the eye of the beholder. If you read VE stories, you'd know that almost this entire current story has been people making fun of one of my characters (myself included) - possibly to the point of his being considered 'useless'. Am I complaining? No.
Phil falls down. He misses a few shots. He gets hurt. Oh, no! He's the biggest loser ever! Shame on you, Danny, for being so mean!
I seem to remember you being pissed off at TTT for writing Phil in a less than sterling light a number of issues ago. We tried to tell you then what I'm essentially trying to tell you now.
Quote: Try to see this from my perspective. You say I'm too attached to my characters - which I'm not denying - so you go about solving the problem by doing what you know is gonna upset me? If you really want to help me become a better writer, keep doing what many of you have been doing - set a good example through your own posts and keep giving me pointers without making me (the poster) look ridiculous.
How is Phil's failure to perform making you look ridiculous? It doesn't. It makes your character look less than perfect. Heaven forbid. Why are you so upset? Because you can't tell the difference between the real world and make believe.
Quote: I've been trying to change the way I do things, and I feel I have been.
Where? When? Show me proof of you not making Phil (or Leslie or Fisher) the star of your posts. I don't think you can do it.
Quote: Why can't you let me keep learning on my own without throwing my mistakes in my face?
As I said before, you don't learn on your own. You learn by asking questions, which I don't think you've been doing since you and I stopped rooming together. (Even then, you only asked me questions about Grissom or about some idea you had for Phil, Leslie, or Fisher.)
I'm not saying this to be outright cruel, Phil. That's not my intention. I'm saying this so that maybe it'll finally sink in that you're barely contributing to the group dynamic, but instead are only focusing on yourself. In fact, your entire reply was very "me" focused, Phil. It was all about not making ME or MY character look dumb. There are a lot of us writing here and if we all took a cue from you and focused solely on our own character... well, we may as well all be writing solo stories.
