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pete got all his hit's without a corked bat.....to bad that lesson was lost in sosa's blind attempt at trying to catch up to MacGuire

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How do you know Pete's bats weren't corked? His just never broke. Since cork is used primarily by contact hitters, not power hitters like the myth goes, I'd bet if we sawed open 76 of Pete's bats we could find something.

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...well i see ive officially won, now youve gone to speculation on pete's bat as opposed to the factual proof of Sosa's corked bat.......allow me a moment to bask in my glory......

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My, my, the point is so easily lost on you.

There's proof that Sammy used a corked bat ONCE. His story has been proven that he's never used a corked bat for one of his 505 home runs. So you're whole "catching up to McGwire" mantra is shit.

But in your mind, proof isn't necessary. So I'm proclaiming that Pete Rose not only bet on every game he ever played in his life, starting in Little League, but he also used a corked bat. It's now up to you to prove me wrong, because you obviously believe a man is guilty once he's accused.

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at least you admit Sammy is a cheater! I WIN AGAIN!

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Why are you so insecure that you need to proclaim yourself victorious after everything you say in a debate?

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I've paid my dues -
Time after time -
I've done my sentence
But committed no crime -
And bad mistakes
I've made a few
I've had my share of sand kicked in my face -
But I've come through

We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting - till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions - of the world -

I've taken my bows
And my curtain calls -
You brought me fame and fortuen and everything that goes with it -
I thank you all -

But it's been no bed of roses
No pleasure cruise -
I consider it a challenge before the whole human race -
And I ain't gonna lose -

We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting - till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions - of the world -

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$50 says that Sosa gets into the Hall of Fame before Rose does.

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another off subject admission of defeat! the wins keep racking up!

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Charlie Hustle was the best player ever.
One reason.
Johnny Bench has nightmares...

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What happened to all the bats that "disappeared" from Wrigley field the night they found the first corked bat.
Sammy is sly as a fox to not give away bats that are corked to restaraunt.

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shhhhh that only common sense talking! this is about blind support!

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"Common sense"? We are using common sense when we say that if Sammy's broken hundreds of bats that weren't corked, it would stand to reason that he hasn't used corked bats before. It's not blind support, it's reason. What you two are doing is blind hatred.

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quote:
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What happened to all the bats that "disappeared" from Wrigley field the night they found the first corked bat.
Sammy is sly as a fox to not give away bats that are corked to restaraunt.

"disappeared"=taken to the league office for inspection.

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logic tells you you wouldnt carry 100's of corked bats with you that would increase your odds of getting caught.....

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No, logic dictates that if you're worried about the odds of getting caught you won't have a corked bat to begin with.

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i know it was difficult for you to follow but we were talking about someone who uses a corked bat thus, if you are going to use a corked bat you would only use one as to lessen the odds not if you werent going to use a corked bat, please try to pay better attention next time, i wont always break it down for you....

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Wow, I've never actually needed to spell out a one line post before, but here goes: I understand perfectly what you said, but you don't realize how stupid it sounded. If you're so worried about getting caught using a corked bat, you wouldn't use it. It makes no difference whether you have one or a hundred. If you use a corked bat you take the chance of getting caught no matter what. Think about what you're saying and try to read what others are, if you can.

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Well Sosa took the chance...and he got caught.

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quote:
Originally posted by britneyspearsatemyshorts:
now youve gone to speculation on pete's bat

And you've gone to speculation on the rest of Sammy's bats, despite significant evidence of the contrary.

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at least you admit Sammy is a cheater!
I think that fact was made fairly obvious by the ejection, investigation and suspension.

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$50 says that Sosa gets into the Hall of Fame before Rose does.

Eh, I think Selig will cave in before then. Instating Rose will be one of the many desperate moves he makes in an attempt to keep his job as commish. Besides, Sammy's still got 5-10 years left in him.

It's possible, though.

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And you've gone to speculation on the rest of Sammy's bats, despite significant evidence of the contrary.

Nope, I never speculated, ive based my entire victorious argument on the proven corked bat, while it makes for a pretty post under my quote, youll find no speculation, nice try tho.....

...again you want to deflect from the guilt of Sosa onto Rose, I guess youve admitted defeat as well....time to polish up the Nature Boy trophy case boys, we won again!

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besides its never been proven that Rose bet on the Reds,he denies it to this day,while Sammy openly admits he cheated.

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a dark cloud hangs over the sport....thanks sammy....

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Nope, I never speculated

Yes you did, your first post said:

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Oh well now we know how he kept up with Macguire.....
You don't know Sosa used cork bats when dueling with Mcguire for the homerun title(and considering the number of bats from that time shown to not have cork inside, doing so would be a bit of a stretch), you just assume he did. That's speculation.

I win!

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Eh, I think Selig will cave in before then. Instating Rose will be one of the many desperate moves he makes in an attempt to keep his job as commish. Besides, Sammy's still got 5-10 years left in him.

It's possible, though.

Selig's stepping down in a couple years anyways, I doubt he's thinking his job's in danger.

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good damage control by MLB....

This is also speculation.

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pete got all his hit's without a corked bat.....to bad that lesson was lost in sosa's blind attempt at trying to catch up to MacGuire

And this is more speculation. Whether or not you think you're right, denying that you've spent your argument speculating just makes you look bad. ...y'know, more bad than usual.

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a dark cloud hangs over the sport....thanks sammy....

You mean last year's All-Star Game, right? Or the steroids scandal? Or Pete Rose's whole deal? Or the Black Sox scandal? Or are you suggesting that yet another dark cloud hangs over the sport? [yuh huh]

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``Whether he's completely cleared or not, the jokes will continue. Every time he hits one a long way, everybody will scratch their heads,'' Yankees manager Joe Torre said. ``I think that's bad, with what he's done in this game.''

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You know what PJP finds pretty funny.......for 8 years the President of the United States Bill Clinton lied and cheated on a daily basis. He went on TV and lied right to our faces on multiple occasions.......yet many of you probably never blinked an eye or gave a damn.

Now somebody who plays a game.......A GAME for crying out loud and cheated....and maybe lied is causing this uproar. [no no no]

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donkey fuckers

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Jordan zombies.

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mmmmmm.....zombies.

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All I gotta say is he used a cork bat...proven when the bat cracked open...
Now hes suspended and appealing an absolute fact. He had a corked bat whethter he knew it or not (Im purty shure he knew but I digress...).
So how can he deny it?
And if he gets suspended HE gets to pick his days of suspension?
WOW!
Who wouldn't love that?
Oh Im suspended for 8days? Well just tack that on to my week vacation at the begining of August...

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He's not appealing the fact that he used the bat. He's appealing the punishment.

Albert Belle not only lied about using a corked bat, but tried to fool inspectors by replacing it with another bat(the bat of a teammate, because, unlike Sammy, all of Albert Belle's bats were corked). On appeal, he only got 7 games. Right now Sammy is slated to get 8.

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But is he wrong?
Yes.
He needs to accept the consequences.
When a person is caught speeding some fines are $50 some are $100.
Admit your mistake and take your punishment like a man Sammy!!!!!
A fine example to the youths of America!
No wonder those kids in the Powder Puff hazing are suing their school!!!!

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I never liked Sammy anyway. A showboater to the bitter end. Can't play the rest of the game worth a damn.

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yep and he over plays that im just a nice guy shpeal......

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Some nice guy...what a role model to the kids out there who watch him...

HEY KIDS I DID SOMETHING WRONG AND IM NOT GONNA GET PUNISHED...
YOU TOO CAN AVOID RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR BEHAVIORS IF SOMEONE ELSE GOT A LESSER PUNISHMENT!

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no wonder kids are killing each other in schools nowadays!

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