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well just like with jordan you give your athlete seal of approval for everything including rape....

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I'd have respect for you if I didn't always have to repeat myself:

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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo a long time ago:
At this point, none of us could possibly know whether Kobe is innocent or guilty, it's all speculation, not truth.

I believe in innocence until proven guilty, bsams. You obviously don't. I don't know anything about Kobe, so I won't give him a "seal of approval" unless there's actually details known about this case that exonerate him. I also won't condemn him to Hell unless there's something that actually convicts him.

Would it really hurt you that much to try to read what people are saying before you respond to them?

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rapist supporter.

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kobe should be fired from the NBA for his rape of that poor woman!

"Fired" from the NBA? That would require the NBA to be employing him in the first place... :lol:

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its really hard for you to follow isnt it, no wonder we always beat you and kristogar in arguments!

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It's "hard to follow" because it isn't true, because you have no idea what you're talking about.

I win!

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....often imatated never duplicated...hard as you try you'll never be me....

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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
It's always good to fire people for being accused of committing some kind of crime without any evidence. [yuh huh] For anybody who doesn't believe in The System, take solace--at least bsams isn't in any sort of position that requires responsibility.

Actually I believe he is the moderator of this forum therefore in a position of power.

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The best moderator too.

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Humble too. [wink]

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Actually I believe he is the moderator of this forum therefore in a position of power.

That's really reaching.

By the way, are any of you Nature Boyz going to actually COUNTER my arguments, or will you just declare yourselves the winner(another example of overcompensation) and move on to bashing other athletes? Not that I don't know the answer to that question, but it still needs to be thrown out there.

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In a valiant attempt to get things back on subject:

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0710/1578893.html

Good thing the Lakes signed my boy Payton. Looks like it's gonna be a dynamite combo of him and Fisher.

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Kobe released a statement today denying everything. [izzat so?]

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Well, it'd be pretty fucking surprising if he admitted guilt to everything... [izzat so?]

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Looks like Jerry Stackhouse is in trouble for roughing up some girl as well. Geez, what is it in the NBA now? Give a 20 year old 10 million bucks and he thinks the world is all his.....

[no no no]

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.....2 words: Sammy Sosa

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Charges pressed by DA after two weeks of deliberation

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EAGLE, Colo. --

Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant has been charged with one count of felony sexual assault, Eagle County prosecutor Mark Hurlbert announced today after two weeks of deliberation.

Bryant will face four years to life in prison, if convicted.

Bryant's Denver-based attorney, Pamela Mackey, has scheduled a news conference at 9 p.m. ET time tonight at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, but there is no word whether Bryant will be there. Mackey also released a statement on Bryant's behalf shortly after the announcement.

"I am innocent of the charges filed today. I did not assault the woman who is accusing me," Bryant said in the statement. "I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. ... Nothing that happened June 30th was against the will of the woman who now falsely accuses me."

Bryant, 24, turned himself in to authorities July 4 and was released on $25,000 bond. The woman claims he attacked her at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in nearby Edwards on June 30.

His attorney has said the five-time NBA All-Star is innocent and was in Colorado for knee surgery at a Vail clinic. In a brief interview with the Los Angeles Times last week, Bryant said he "would never do something like that.''

Bryant attended the ESPY Awards in Los Angeles on Wednesday night, but avoided the media in his first public appearance since his arrest. He sat in the audience smiling and laughing with his wife, Vanessa.


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That cocksucker DA wants to make a career out of Kobe. This is such fucking bullshit. I don't think he did it. What kind of concierge delivers room service at 2 am. She fucking wanted it. Cunt.

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Text of statement by Kobe Bryant's wife

July 18, 2003

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Text of a statement released at the request of Vanessa Bryant, through her husband's attorneys, Harold A. Haddon and Pamela Robillard Mackey, and his agent Rob Pelinka, after the Los Angeles Lakers star was charged with sexual assault in Colorado:

I know that my husband has made a mistake -- the mistake of adultery.

He and I will have to deal with that within our marriage, and we will do so. He is not a criminal. I know that he did not commit a crime, he did not assault anyone.

He is a loving and kind husband and father. I believe in his innocence.

Because I know him to be innocent, I will stand by him and we will face this together. I will give him all the strength and support he needs to face these false accusations. I will not let him face these accusations alone.

I know Kobe better than anyone. The great person you see on the court and in the public is a far greater person off the court.


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There is a picture floating around of the victim. She's blonde and cute.

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Where did you see the pic Dave?

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I'm not Dave, but I saw a picture of her at www.uselessjunk.com. Beware of counterfeit pictures, though, there's a few of them running around already.

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supposedly all released pics of her thus far have been fake.

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Kobe gives wife ring shortly after admitting adultery

Just days after admitting to millions of people that he cheated on his wife, Kobe Bryant has reportedly spent millions on a gift for her.

The Lakers star called what he did adultery. You can call what he bought his wife, Vanessa, whatever you want: damage control or sincere apology attempt.

According to the New York Post, People Magazine will be on the newsstands Friday with a report that Kobe has purchased a $4 million eight-carat, purple diamond ring for his wife.

"They looked very happy together," Raffi, the man who made the ring, told People after the couple picked it up Monday at an exclusive jewelry boutique in Santa Monica, Calif. Raffi also made the couple's wedding rings two years ago, according to People. The new bauble was specially commissioned two weeks ago.

Bryant was charged Friday with a single count of felony sexual assault against a 19-year-old woman at an exclusive spa where he was staying when he came to Colorado for knee surgery. If convicted, he faces four years to life in prison or 20 years to life on probation, and a fine of up to $750,000.

At Friday's news conference, Kobe defended himself against the assault charge, but admitted to committing adultery with the accuser. Vanessa Bryant was at her husband's side during the news conference and released a statement.

"He is a loving and kind husband and father," she said in the statement. "I believe in his innocence. Because I know him to be innocent, I will stand by him and we will face this together."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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so, whats sadder about the above?

A) that kobe is (succesfully) buying his wive's forgiveness and silence?

b) or that he has the kinda money to spend 4 mil on a gift?

think about it ... 4 mil! that aint too much at all to the kob. and yet, if he bought it from, say, my father, my entire family could retire, and life out the rest of our lives in paradise.

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A) that kobe is (succesfully) buying his wive's forgiveness and silence?

You don't know that. His wife was supporting him long before this gift.

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and you don't know that

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It's an pro athlete of course animalman knows that, he worships them blindly!

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quote:
Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:
so, whats sadder about the above?

A) that kobe is (succesfully) buying his wive's forgiveness and silence?

b) or that he has the kinda money to spend 4 mil on a gift?

I think the saddest part is that people seem to think this gift has anything to do with the case. Just like people thought that the woman accusing Kobe ODing months ago has something to do with the case. I think it's sad that I'm even talking, typing or thinking about it.

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Originally posted by britneyspearsatemyshorts:
It's an pro athlete of course animalman knows that, he worships them blindly!

Like you blindly believe that they're guilty of rape once someone accuses them.

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...and the second altar boy appears...

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I suppose I'm guilty of "worshipping" athletes now that bsams has accused me. Never mind that my opinion on Kobe being innocent until proven guilty is something that I hold for everyone, athlete and non-athlete alike... [yuh huh]

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Isn't it time to dust the posters?

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quote:
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Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:
so, whats sadder about the above?

A) that kobe is (succesfully) buying his wive's forgiveness and silence?

b) or that he has the kinda money to spend 4 mil on a gift?

I think the saddest part is that people seem to think this gift has anything to do with the case. Just like people thought that the woman accusing Kobe ODing months ago has something to do with the case. I think it's sad that I'm even talking, typing or thinking about it.
Riiiiiight....PURE coincidence on the timing of his bribe err gift to his wife...

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Franta--explain how your reaction to my post is relevant to the points I made in my post? I'm not attacking you, I'm just not sure what you're saying.

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ATTACKER!

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quote:
Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:
and you don't know that

The gift was bought on Thursday(according to every report I've seen on it), days after she publically stated she was supporting her husband. So my conclusion is supported. Yours is merely a pessimistic assumption.

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Originally posted by Kristogar Velo:
Never mind that my opinion on Kobe being innocent until proven guilty is something that I hold for everyone, athlete and non-athlete alike... [yuh huh]

And supported by law.

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