Oh and by the way, you said before that you never insulted anyone who didn't insult you first, so, prey tell, when did I insult you? I objected to what I could have assumed was you were trivialising the lives of our sodiers by using thier deaths as an anti-Bush banner when many of them (dare I say most?) died proud of thier country, president and believing that thier mission was just and right and that thier death contributed to the greater good and would be deeply offended that thier death was disshonored by using it as an attemt to discredit thier mission, but I didn't I adressed the issue directly. If you would like to go back and forth insulting one another then start a thread in the off topic forum addressing what you don't like about me and I'll gladly join in. I mean c'mon if Oakley can at least do that.... can't you?