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Darknight613 said:

Dave TWB, Wednesday: since it seems like it's personal between you two, maybe you should talk to Rob about your problems with each other? I'm just thinking that instead of duking it out and making the problem worse, you might want/need a third party to step in? Considering Rob stepped in during the Chris Oakley thing back on the off-topic boards when things got really bad, maybe he can help settle this feud somehow if you think things between you two have gotten bad enough?





DK, I appreciate your sincere, non-partisan, non-inflammatory suggestion to find a way actually resolve this ongoing conflict between me and Wednesday.

As I believe is no secret to anyone here, you and I, we've previously had our differences. And now we don't clash anymore, so it's an example of what's possible, in these boards hopefully becoming more civil.

While I appreciate the suggestion, I don't think our disagreement (me and Wednesday) quite rises to the level of needing moderation. I'm pretty close to walking away from this topic.
I initially believed that Wednesday was sincere in wanting to resolve this, and that is the ONLY reason I've given three topic pages of lengthy responses here to this topic.

But...

I'm frankly a little fed up with Wednesday's condescending smart-assed remarks here, false allegations toward me, and red-herring bullshit issues (particularly the "mother" thing, which I think pretty clearly to anyone not trying to start some crap, was an innocent remark on my part, and clearly not directed at his mother. )
I made a similar remark in the Ronald Reagan Dies topic (page 6). I feel increasingly like Wednesday is trying to pin some crap on me, to "gotcha" me out of context.

And in that atmosphere, forget it, we're done here.






Wednesday,

If you want to begin a period of mutually respectful posting between yourself and me, do it, and I'll respond in kind.

But if you continue with this attitude that even my sincere efforts to resolve things is a springboard for mockery of me and jokes at my expense, by you and other liberal trolls here, and that you can label me an angry partisan for merely responding, minimally at that to the bullshit you and other liberals toss at me, then you unquestionably are a malicious troll asshole, and I won't give you a free pass while you go on with your attacks, I'll fire back.

I hasten to add that this post excerpt from last night by Wednesday...


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Well, Wednesday, I see you've been making bitter personal assumptions about my person and character, in four lengthy posts while I was away from the boards.




Of course!



...has been, quite spinelessly, edited, removing an incriminating part where you said that you and several other liberal (troll asshole) posters had a bet (over e-mail or private message, I forget) prior to my responding to these four posts, that I would respond saying you made bitter personal assumptions about me in your four-post salvo.
When I saw that last night, I stopped posting. Sincerity went out the window when you posted that.

First, you were contemptuously mocking me while I was trying to give you sincere answers toward a resolution of our ongoing disagreement.

Second, that's just plain mean-spirited, sending me on a fool's errand to look up topics where I posted previously (topics where political issues were discussed, topics where despite polar disagreement, I didn't pull the conversation down into flame-wars of angry disagreement, as you allege I constantly do), and you did so, apparently, just to mock me, and have a laugh at my expense behind my back with other liberal troll assholes on these boards.

Third, you lay down four posts HEAVY with all kinds of personal attacks on me, and then voice amusement and contempt for the fact that I responded precisely the way your asshole liberal troll allegations obligated me to.

And there are plenty of other asshole troll statements of yours in this topic I haven't responded to, that really warrant no further response.

No matter how much civility I try to demonstrate in minimally responding to a tiny fraction of the shit you throw at me, you and Animalman and others characterize my minimal responses as equal or worse than the far more bitter and angry vitriol you guys relentlessly toss at me, that provokes my response in the first place.

I really would like to put an end to the lack of civility in the DEEP THOUGHTS section, certainly an end to the venom directed at me personally.
And ideally, where ALL of us can post respectful disagreement, without all this anger.

As usual, this is another topic that where my political views have been eclipsed by the attacks on me personally, and even at this length I've responded to maybe 25% of the allegations you've raised.




And even my accepting your fool's errand, finding ten topics you requested (I actually posted 11 or 12), topics where I engaged in political debate with people who I disagreed with, several in which topics I was flamed and didn't respond) you quickly dismissed them (predictably).
Nice. So glad I wasted literally a couple of hours looking them up.

Even if I only responded with one or two posts in those 11 or so topics, if I'd been the angry/eager flame warrior you accuse me of being, I still would have jumped in flaming from the first post, flames blazing, from the moment I disagreed with anyone. Which DIDN'T happen.

I also listed many other topics where I did post a lot of back-and-forth, as you call it. Probably the topics I posted the most to were...


    the Canada Allows Same-sex Marriage topic,

    It's not about oil or Iraq topic

    Do Liberals HATE the President topic,

    and Do Liberals HATE America topic,

    (all of which I gave links for above, I think, along with many others, which you didn't acknowledge)


...in which I often posted with great civility and lengthy back-and-forth, interrupted only when liberal troll assholes went for my jugular, and I responded defensively in kind, often only after lengthy attempts at polite response yielded no fruit.

So... you might consider holding yourself and other liberals to the same standard that you hold me. You might then see that my responses are incredibly restrained and polite, under the circumstances, and that the times I get genuinely angry in RKMB/DEEP THOUGHTS topics are remarkably rare, relative to the relentless antagonism of yourself and others.