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Darknight613 said:
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You see, this is the funny part about the date-changing argument. While there are hundreds of pre-Constantine calenders that denote the birth of Christ being in Dec. 25, there has been neigh to no evidence indicating that the pagan holiday was even in December. I'm not saying the Pagans didn't convert over the holiday, but I find that there's more evidence that they conformed to the Catholic holiday date more than the Church did theirs.



What I find interesting is that Hannukah, which usually coincides with Christmas (or what we know as Christmas today), begins on the 25th of the Hebrew month of Kislev.

It's a heck of a coincidence that two holidays in the same time period occur on the same day of their prospective months.

Or is it?

At this point, I'm not engaging in anything other than idle speculation and posting something that popped into my head. I plan to look into this in detail when I have the opportunity. I'm curious to see whether this either is a coincidence, or if one influenced the other.


well i know that the actual date of christ's birth is unknown or lost (assuming he existed at all, but that's not that point here). It was Constantine the first Christian emperor of Rome who decided to place a celebration for Christ on the winter solstice. This was to make the transition from paganism to christianity easier as they were already used to celebrating on that day anyway.
Historians think Constantine may have been less of a convert and more the wise ruler. He saw that Christianity was on the rise and would overtake pagans. So he introduced Christianity through Pagan imagery. Such as his seeing a vision of Jesus in the Sun (Sun God being a major God to the Pagans, and thus seen as an endorsement).

Anyway, that's all I remember from the documentary I saw. To learn more visit your local library. Or wait for Pariah to tell you how I'm wrong and that slavery is good for society.

Bow ties are coool.