I never said the discussion should be within the boundaries of your values. I still don't see why people shouldn't practice pre-marital sex if they don't believe in the bible.
It's funny, yet deeply tragic, that the no condoms rule has been enforced so much (I don't believe no masturbation has been enforced that much, yet it's the same wasted seed principle) that people exist who practice premarital sex but don't rubber up for fear of offending God, and in some cases end up getting diseases.
