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This may be old news to you guys but I thought I'd share anyway.

As you all know, Warren Ellis used to write Hellblazer. Long story short, there was an issue that dealt with school shootings. DC never printed it. Well, here it is with art.

Keep in mind as soon as DC gets wind of the site, it will be taken down. So, I would never encourage anyone to download all the pages before DC removes them.

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On a related note, Waid wrote an issue of Captain America that was never released. He quit Marvel because of it. Have those pages ever surfaced?

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wow. that was great. another reason why Ellis is hands down my favorite writer out there today. I just love it when something really bad happens, then we, as a country, turn a blind eye to addressing the issue so it can go away. too bad it never does.

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Thank you.

The issue of Captain America (issue #14, I think) was essentially the origin of the Red Skull. Marvel essentially made their changes and Waid told 'em to drop his name from the issue. I've never seen the pages...I assume the changes were just done on the actual pages they work with.


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Wizard said that Waid made the Red Skull too sympathetic. Thats why Marvel forced the changes.


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That was fantastic. Thanks for the link.

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No problem guys. I lurk over here all the time. I need to make it a point to post more.

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Hecks, yeah, Scott! Thanks for the link, man! Good times!

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Wow.

Just wow.

Kudos to whoever is responsible for making this available. And, of course, kudos to Warren Ellis and Phil Jimenez to assembling it in the first place.

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Hecks, yeah, Scott! Thanks for the link, man! Good times!





"Hecks,yeah"?!?!?!!?

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Fuck Warren Ellis.

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Leave now. Right now. Get out of my sight and never return. You've overstayed your welcome. Begone... and never behere again.

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Fuck Warren Ellis.




And then you say you're not gay! Please! Wanting to fuck men is gay, you know?


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Leave now. Right now. Get out of my sight and never return. You've overstayed your welcome. Begone... and never be here again.




Sorry,but the jerk kicked me off his message board two years without warning,reason,or explanation.I lost all respect for him in that moment.

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No reason? Do you even read your posts? You're the most annoying fuck I've ever met. The only reason you stay on these boards is becasue Rob doesn't ban anyone.


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No reason at all,Rex.I was just minding my own business and one day Warren gives me the boot.Not the slightest hint that he might be annoyed with me...just shoved me out the door and locked it behind me.

And as if that wasn't bad enough, he ignored my repeated requests for an explanation for his motives in banning me.

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Chris Oakley said:
Fuck Warren Ellis.




Why bother even clicking on the link if you hate Ellis?

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No reason? Do you even read your posts? You're the most annoying fuck I've ever met. The only reason you stay on these boards is becasue Rob doesn't ban anyone.



that's rex's way of letting you know he loves you.

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Chris Oakley said:
Fuck Warren Ellis.




Why bother even clicking on the link if you hate Ellis?




Actually,Scott,I never clicked the link.

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Oh, I get it, you just wanted to throw in that you hate Warren Ellis in a thread were fans were enjoying some of his unpublished work. OK! : )

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Those fans might change their minds in a hurry if they got a taste of the treatment he subjected me to.

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What happened? If you want to talk about it. I know he cn be kind of pissy.

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Those fans might change their minds in a hurry if they got a taste of the treatment he subjected me to.




Then I guess you're about as sensitive as a ten-year-old girl. Some of us are able to separate art from artist, but it looks like you're too whiny and narrow-minded to even accomplish that much! I reiterate my earlier statement - leave.

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hecks yeah!

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What happened? If you want to talk about it. I know he cn be kind of pissy.




Well, Scott, I had been posting at Warren Ellis' Delphi forum on a fairly frequent basis for at least a year, and I had thought everything was okay until one morning in 2001 when to my chagrin I found I had been gagged at the forum. He gave me no warning or explanation, and he ignored five separate e-mails I sent him asking why I had been banned and what I could do to get the ban lifted. The upshot of all this is that Ellis basically treated me like crap and more or less blew me off when I tried to find out why.

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Chris Oakley said:
Those fans might change their minds in a hurry if they got a taste of the treatment he subjected me to.




I think I have a better opinion of him now.


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Ellis gets pissed when you don't send donkey porn homages in your emails. maybe thats why you fucked up?

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....I guess you're about as sensitive as a ten-year-old girl. Some of us are able to separate art from artist, but it looks like you're too whiny and narrow-minded to even accomplish that much! I reiterate my earlier statement - leave.




With all due respect,Chewy,you're not getting the point.The least Ellis could have done was given me a heads-up that he was annoyed with me for some reason.Instead he arbitrarily kicked me out,then gave me the silent treatment.Even if he's the second coming of Michelangelo,his actions were unjustified;the bastard didn't even pretend to give me an opportunity to set things right.

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so where does the donkey porn come into play here?

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I'm sorry to hear that. I still like the guy as a writer though.

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Ellis just got sick of your shit and kicked you out before he really got mad and made dancing nymphs chain you to a wall and suck your blood out through twisty straws.

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....I guess you're about as sensitive as a ten-year-old girl. Some of us are able to separate art from artist, but it looks like you're too whiny and narrow-minded to even accomplish that much! I reiterate my earlier statement - leave.




With all due respect,Chewy,you're not getting the point.The least Ellis could have done was given me a heads-up that he was annoyed with me for some reason.Instead he arbitrarily kicked me out,then gave me the silent treatment.Even if he's the second coming of Michelangelo,his actions were unjustified;the bastard didn't even pretend to give me an opportunity to set things right.




No, Chris... you're missing the point. So, the guy's an ass. Big deal. He's still one hell of a writer who has done some amazing things in the comic book industry. Just because you hold a grudge better than a middle school girl doesn't make this not so. It's called separating the art from the artist.

So, he kicked you off his forum... FOUR YEARS AGO, I might add! (Time to get over it, Chris!) It's his forum, is it not? It's his prerogative to decline membership to whomever he wants. I think you should accept that fact and move on. If it soured you to his writing, then you are, without a doubt, the most shallow individual in the history of individuals.

Now, shouldn't we be moving this back on topic to the banned Hellblazer comic? What'd you guys think? How lame is DC for not making this available to mainstream markets? Discuss.

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Well the pages are out there and hopefully widely downloaded already as well.

thanks for this.

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I read this a while ago, one of the regular posters on the Vertigo boards has a Hellblazer fansite with them on there.
Was never that impressed with it to be honest.


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