I agree with G-Man. If you believe that one side is using the wrong reasoning for something, using the the same reasoning to arrive at the opposite conclusion makes no sense.
I'm not going to say anything new here, but around the 10th week, heartbeat and brainwaves are detectable. That, in my mind, equates life. Debates about whether or not it could survive outside the womb at that point, or if it can feel pain, are irrelevant.
