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Columbia Tristar Home Entertainment has announced the release of Batman and Robin - The Serial Collection for March 22nd. This release marks the first time the '49 cliffhanger has hit the digital format. I'm just wondering if we'll ever see an uncut version of the 1943 serial, though, which is chock full of WW2 war-time anti-enemy propoganda and slang...the majority of VHS releases of the '43 serial in the past have been the re-edit paste job by Sony, which attempts to "soften" it up a bit... Info: Batman and Robin: the Complete 1949 serial
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If I had mod powers I'd edit your post to correct the misspelling of The Bat-Man's name. I except this kind of sacriledge from others, HK, but not you...
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Columbia Tristar Home Entertainment has announced the release of Batman and Robin - The Serial Collection for March 22nd. This release marks the first time the '49 cliffhanger has hit the digital format.
I'm just wondering if we'll ever see an uncut version of the 1943 serial, though, which is chock full of WW2 war-time anti-enemy propoganda and slang...the majority of VHS releases of the '43 serial in the past have been the re-edit paste job by Sony, which attempts to "soften" it up a bit...
Info: Batman and Robin: the Complete 1949 serial
You'll never see an uncut version of that on an official release. Likely it'll only happen on a bootleg, assuming someone has access to an untampered version of it.
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My nephews got the old Superman cartoons from the 40's. Its filled with stuff that now would be considered politically incorrect. Which means its very funny.
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I already have the 1949 Batman serial on DVD. It's not very good though...
Wayne Manor as a matter of fact looks like an average suburban 1 story home. Complete with the passersby walking along the sidewalk next to the house!
The Batmobile is an average looking 1940's sedan with nothing to distinguish it from any other 1940's sedan except for the fat limp eared guy driving and the middle aged curly haired passenger with the halloween domino mask.
The acting and story also leave much to be desired...
It's a must-buy ONLY if you're some anal Batman completist.
By the by Rex, are you referring to the asian sterotypes and the jungle natives in the Superman cartoons?
It'd just be nice to know what you find amusing.
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Regarding anti-Japanese racism in the first serial...
In the introduction to "The Golden Age Of Marvel Comics Volume 1," Roy Thomas makes the following statement regarding the negative stereotyping of Germans and Japanese in the Golden Age stories, and the decision not to censor said stereotypes.
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...most Timely heroes had been fighting the Nazis since 1940, but now the gloves were off, and Cap, Torch, and Namor were the triple-spearhead of some of the most virulently anit-Axis comics of the War period. If the Japanese, and even the Germans, were caricatured in a stereotyped fashion in some of these stories, it's lamentable, but these tales reflect, for better or worse, the American public's reaction to the horrors of war in general and to known Japanese atrocities in particular. To censor or pretty-up these stories for a later generation would be to falsify the past, something there's already been far too much of, so they've been repritned just as they originally appeared.
And he's absolutely right. On those same grounds, the original Bat-Man serial should be released uncensored, not to promote anti-Japanese sentiment, but because we shouldn't try and pretend that some of the less favorable aspects of our history and culture didn't happen.
On the other hand, I wouldn't buy the original "Bat-Man" serial, censored or uncensored, on the grounds that it sucked. Columbia, the stuido that made both "Batman" serials (as well as the abysmal "Shaodw" serial) were notorious for making crappy serials, and "Bat-Man" was no excpetion.
"Batman & Robin" is even worse - maybe even worse than the Joel Schumacher debacle of the same name. There's a cliffhanger where Batman is standing on the edge of a cliff holding a metal bar, and the villain electrocutes the bar from a distance. Batman's knees wobble in a gut-bustingly hilarious dance that puts Adam West's Batusi to shame, and falls off the cliff.
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I concur, and extend that to the Tom & Jerry, Warner Bros., and a good chunk of Tex Avery-directed cartoons from that time. Those cartoons are classics, but our overly-PC culture has caused them to get sound-edited, cut, and, in some cases, completely shelved. Which is a shame, because a "decent" Droopy Dog cartoon, directed by Tex Avery in the 40s, is better than roughly 99% of the tripe that's put out there now.
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By the by Rex, are you referring to the asian sterotypes and the jungle natives in the Superman cartoons?
Yes, I am a racist. I've already admitted to it.
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I've had the Goodtimes Home Video releases of both Bat serials for years on VHS, I'm just glad that some cliffhangers are finally making it to the digital format...
On the note of the anti-Japanese sentiment found int he '43 serial, it makes sense that it woulda got editted...Columbia Pictures holds the rights to it (one of the few DC film adaptations that WB was never able to scoop up the rights to...which is weird, they somehow snagged the rights to the two Columbia SUPERMAN serials years ago), and who holds Columbia's reins? Sony. One of the biggest corporations in Japan.
I'm all for an uncut release...I mean if Disney can release it's derogatory work (see several of their Disney Treasures sets, specifically the "On the Front LInes" set, which contains a ton of Disney's wartime propoganda stuff), with a disclaimer (usually a video one, made by historian and critic Leonard Maltin) which states, and I paraphase, mind you, that basically, "early Disney artists were uneducated hicks who didn't know any better and their views were shared by the majority of their contemporaries....so it's alright"...I don't see why Columbia couldn't do an uncut disc set. Though, having mentioned that theri parent company is Sony...I doubt it'll ever happen. Sony was the ones who pushed for and did the edit hack job to begin with...
On that note....Disney is supposedly gearing up for a release of a film they've tried to make the public forget for nearly 4 decades now, "Song of the South"...so anything's possible. It's like I told someone at another MB, "Disney has been trying to cover up this 1946 release since the late 1960s, because of fears of backlash from ethnic groups...but what they don't seem to realize is that they're still in the business of making cash off bad stereotypes of minorities.
Exhibit A: Poor, underclass uneducated midwesterners= "The County Bears".
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I already have the 1949 Batman serial on DVD. It's not very good though...
Wayne Manor as a matter of fact looks like an average suburban 1 story home. Complete with the passersby walking along the sidewalk next to the house!
The Batmobile is an average looking 1940's sedan with nothing to distinguish it from any other 1940's sedan except for the fat limp eared guy driving and the middle aged curly haired passenger with the halloween domino mask.
The acting and story also leave much to be desired...
It's a must-buy ONLY if you're some anal Batman completist.
By the by Rex, are you referring to the asian sterotypes and the jungle natives in the Superman cartoons?
It'd just be nice to know what you find amusing.
It's refreshing to see a liberal who is so far out there and so devoid of any sense of humor.......you've never laughed at or made an off-colored joke?
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.......you've never laughed at ...
or made an off-colored joke?
I think that's the key there. Laughed AT.
Now as far as the Warner/Tex Avery cartoons or the 1st Batman serial, i don't advocate censorship AT ALL. In fact as posted above and as was posted in that old 'Birth of a Nation' thread, I think there is a tasteful way to present racist images as historical document.
Continuing to delight though in images designed to diminish and caricature a whole race is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.
And no, I don't go around making racial jokes. Off coluor jokes? Of course. Considering that most people I come in contact with are of various and diverse ethnicities, I'd have to be a real asshole to go about my day making tasteless racial jokes around people.
No one I know apart from this bitter loner guy who goes around calling black people 'monkeys' when he's not mumbling to himself about "liberals'' all day long, do either.
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I've always been taught that there are only two types of people in the world:
Ordinary, honest hard-working joes who do the best they can with what they ahve and what they know....
...and, assholes, which come in an amazing assortment of shades.
Plus, I've always found it silly to hate anyone based on skin-color...it's basically just a matter of melanin cells. It'd be like hating someone for having a suntan...
I've found that if you don't sweat the obvious differences, and concentrate on the petty...that if you really get to know a person, no matter who they are, as a person...there's so many little things you can learn to hate them for.
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