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...This is a serious subject for me.
Christians do suffer from this. I'm one of them.
I'm seeking interviews with other Christians who are dealing/have dealt with this sticky subject in their spiritual walk.
Please get in touch with me via e-mail.
zwilnik79@juno.com
Thanks,
Non
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Statistically, I'd say practicing Christians are more likely to stay away from drugs, but I don't see how it's topic worthy.
On that note: I hope you get over it.
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Nonoxynol9 said:
...This is a serious subject for me.
Christians do suffer from this. I'm one of them.
I'm seeking interviews with other Christians who are dealing/have dealt with this sticky subject in their spiritual walk.
Please get in touch with me via e-mail.
zwilnik79@juno.com
Thanks,
Non
You realize you've now made Jim's list of Christians with problems that he throws out occasionally to try and make his point. All jokes asside it is a problem for alot of people, Christians included. Suffereing from it doesn't make anyone less of a Christian. My church has a group for addicts I'd direct you to them if you were in the Seattle area, but I'll see if there's any resorces some of the guys can point me towards.
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Yeah. It's nothing uncommon.
I've heard of all sorts of support groups in the church, from drugs to porn and everything in between..
The good thing for you is that as a Christian with a church, (hopefully) you have a good support structure (in addition to your loved ones) there to help you deal with your addiction.
Good luck. Sincerely.
Question. Why exactly are you seeking other christians with drug addiction problems?
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I know a few (not many) Christians with this problem, but most wouldn't consider it a problem.
How seriously Christian do they have to be, Non?
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Wednesday makes a good point: how are you defining "Christian"?
Since the vast majority of Americans, even those who never set foot in a church, consider themselves "Christian," I would suspect the vast majority of people with drug addictions are, technically, Christians.
Hell, every Irish Catholic with a drinking problem is, technically, a Christian with a drug addiction.
By the same token in a country that was predominiately Jewish or Muslim, the majority of drug addicts would be Jewish or Muslim.
You need to define your group more accurately.
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Wednesday makes a good point: how are you defining "Christian"?
Since the vast majority of Americans, even those who never set foot in a church, consider themselves "Christian," I would suspect the vast majority of people with drug addictions are, technically, Christians.
Hell, every Irish Catholic with a drinking problem is, technically, a Christian with a drug addiction.
By the same token in a country that was predominiately Jewish or Muslim, the majority of drug addicts would be Jewish or Muslim.
You need to define your group more accurately.
Pretty much. Whether youre a Christian or not seems to be pretty irelevant when concering your problem. All it does is distract from the issue at hand which is a person with a drug problem. Since you're posting here I assume you'd appreciate our assorted opinions. The kind of drug also determines the severity of your addiction. Alcohol, nicotine, coke, meth, pills, heroine: these make people chemically dependent regardless if they have addictive personalities.
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I don't think he's doing a survey here folks...just looking for some support. I think it's a round about way of saying that he needs someone to talk to about issues that he has. Power to him. Addictions are a nasty bitch that can take us places we never thought we were capable of going. The things that one can and does do when addicted (lying, stealing and worse) can leave you feeling alienated from God. Sometimes you just need a reminder that you can never fall completely out of his love...merely just dissapoint him and have to work a little harder to win back his approval.
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I know a few (not many) Christians with this problem, but most wouldn't consider it a problem.
How seriously Christian do they have to be, Non?
Basically, faith in Jesus Christ as the Savior of Mankind, and belief in the infallible Word of God, which is the Holy Bible.
(Two things that "modern man" cannot stand to believe in, since it requires him to "need" something more than himself, which is unthinkable. Utterly unthinkable!!)
Everything else, the church as we know it, the rules, the regulations, the denominations, the "we'll love you if you agree with us, but if you don't, you're going to hell" mentality -- those are all just trappings, and probably unnecessary.
Christians are not perfect. In fact, we're "works in progress". Followers of Jesus are still human, we still fail. We're not exempt. And we do suffer addictions.
Drugs in particular for me: pot and booze. I can't go to sleep at night without being either drunk or high. I tell myself books, movies, and music are more interesting when I'm stoned. I get bored easily. So I smoke weed. It gets me inside my head for a few hours, and I can forget about how much of a mess I've made everything. Pure, undiluted laziness and escapism, on my part. I'm too weak on my own strength to face up to things. Weed, beer, whiskey... makes things easier to forget.
But this isn't how I should deal with life's problems, it's boredoms.
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I don't think he's doing a survey here folks...just looking for some support. I think it's a round about way of saying that he needs someone to talk to about issues that he has. Power to him. Addictions are a nasty bitch that can take us places we never thought we were capable of going. The things that one can and does do when addicted (lying, stealing and worse) can leave you feeling alienated from God. Sometimes you just need a reminder that you can never fall completely out of his love...merely just dissapoint him and have to work a little harder to win back his approval.
In a way, I'm doing both. I had an idea the other night while talking with one of my Christian friends. He knows all about my addictions, but he never judges me. While talking, I got this idea for a book for Christians who are dealing with addictions, mostly drugs and alcohol. It's this great big taboo, something unspoken among believers because of the stigma attached to it ("Gasp! No true Christian has addictions!")
But it needs to be said. It needs to be talked about, openly. If I believe deep down inside that I am a Christian, and yet I'm still suffering from drug addiction... how many more people like me are out there? I think, if I found a book by a Christian author who was trying to help guide other Christians with the same problem, I don't think I'd be where I am today. Just knowing that other Christians suffer the same way I do... it would make the suffering ease, if just a little bit. I would know that I'm not alone...
And thanks, klinton, for your understanding.
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Sorry.
I thought this was a research project or survey, the way the initial post was phrased.
However, to touch on something from my previous post, there's really nothing to be ashamed of with being a Christian (or any religion) with this issue. As I said, most Americans with drug addictions are Christian, simply because most Americans are Christian.
As you, yourself, said no one, Christian or otherwise, is perfect.
In terms of a book, I can't help you much there. I'm a lapsed Catholic agnostic with semi-objectivist leanings.
In terms of your own issues:
You might consider talking to your minister/priest. You might find he/she has counseled-or referred to counseling-a fair number of people in your position.
There's also a myriad of "12 step" programs that use belief in a higher power as step-not necc'ly the goal-of overcoming addictions, such as "AA." Consider those too.
Good luck either way.
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