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Mr. Lesbo said:
DC is older and thus has a more adult feel. In your mind maybe.



Not just in my mind, but, in reality. DC came first, and practically invented the superhero comic book. DC begats Vertigo, which also begats WIldstorm. These two imprints have done more for adult-style themes and storytelling in comics than anything Marvel has ever produced. That's of course not counting the landmarks of DKR and Watchmen, or even Crisis (the only mainstream comic event that ever lived up to what it promised). Marvel has never taken these steps, content to go with whatever is in current fashion. Thus, it gives their books a dated feel a year after they are produced, whereas DC characters have a more iconic quality. No more, no less.

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DC sucked in the 70's. DC was sooooo bad Marvel is where it is today thanks to that simple fact! Big time!



I'm quite sure where you are pulling your facts. It might be of an opinion that the Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams GL/GA stories of the 70's had just as much, if not more of a social-themed impact than anything Marvel put out at the time. But, as far as what "sucked", well, that's left to speculation and sheer opinion. Not "fact". "Big time".

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If Marvel is such a moment trend for kids then why the All Star line at DC?



I'm not quite sure I understand the implication of your point. If you are saying that All-Star DC is an answer to Marvel's Ultimate line, then, I would probably agree with you. However, the crux of my point was based in the fact that Marvel's mainstream books, as well the creative path their entire line (historically) takes, is derived from the whatever is current and trendy. The Ultimate line is designed to hopefully bring in a new generation of readers. As well it should. And, as well as All-Star should. But, this really doesn't do anything to help make your point (assuming you have one).

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Maybe Marvel wants to save comic books for future generations to enjoy... This is a fantastic art form to tell stories. That is ALL it is.



Agreed. But, how does this imply that DC does not? And, at what point has anyone said that they didn't? And, how does this relate to the original part of my post that you quoted?

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This is why people whom LOVE comics do not get it! If we want to see comic books continue we need NEW fans. Younger fans.



I think lump-summing all people who "love" comics into a catagory that is not as "enlightened" as you seem to think you are, does a great disservice to your point, and, to fans in general. Some understand the needs of the industry as a whole, some do not. But, assuming you are the only one that "gets it" is presumptious, and nullifies your argument.

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While I, as a comic fan, love the new Batman movie it does not create new fans.



Really? I find that interesting that you are cosmically aware of such a generalized "fact". I personally know at least 10 people that have become interested in comics books due solely to the movie Batman Begins. Half of those same people found the FF movie to be laughable and silly. Thus, my original point, apples and oranges. It's all in your preference.

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The Marvel movies are doing the work the DC movies aren't. They are getting the comics on the big screen.



Oh, for certain that this has been the age of Marvel movies. And, you know, about time really. I find it amusing that certain opinionated fans use your above statement as some type of superior stance, all the while forgetting that DC beat them to the cinema by about...I don't know...twenty-years. By the time Marvel put out quality flicks (and no doubt, the Spider-Man, Blade, and X-Men franchises are quality movies) DC had already given us two of cinema's biggest box office successes in the medium, and created classics that defined their decades (the original Superman: The Motion Picture and 1989's Batman). That's not even counting their sequels.

So, yes, Marvel has created some really good movies. And, DC has as well. But, again, attempting to say that one is inherently better than the other is, as I originally stated, ludicrous.

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There's a reason DC has started their All Star line. Marvel. Period.



And there's a reason Marvel created Fantastic Four. It was called the Justice League. There's a reason they created the X-Men. It was called the Doom Patrol. There's a reason they created Sentry. It's called Superman. And the list goes on and on and on and on and on. So, really, trying to lay the base of your point on the idea that DC created the All-Star line because of Marvel is rather pointless, wouldn't you agree?

Making comparisons is easy. Creating quality concepts, characters, books, and movies? That's hard...