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Q: If a tree falls in the woods and there is no-one there to hear it does it make a sound?
A: Yes
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you misspelled "the"...
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Yes, yes i did.
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Q: If a tree falls in the woods and there is no-one there to hear it does it make a sound?
A: Yes
It depends. If the tree falls and nothing is there except for the tree and nothingness, no. If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes. If the tree, in any state of it's existance has ever been observed (according to generally accepted theories) then yes it makes a sound. If the tree falls in outr space it makes a sound but nobody can hear it scream.
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Is Optimus Prime a Republican?
It wasn't my origianl intention to take questions asside from the oldest unanswerables (you have bsams thread for that), but this question is very important so i will answer it.
A: Optimus Prime is not a Republican. Prime was never granted US citizenship and he remains loyal to his home, Cybertron and his party, the Autobots who have been staunch allies of the United States since the Reagan administration.
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Q: If a tree falls in the woods and there is no-one there to hear it does it make a sound?
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It depends. If the tree falls and nothing is there except for the tree and nothingness, no. If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes. If the tree, in any state of it's existance has ever been observed (according to generally accepted theories) then yes it makes a sound. If the tree falls in outr space it makes a sound but nobody can hear it scream.
Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
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Q: If a tree falls in the woods and there is no-one there to hear it does it make a sound?
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It depends. If the tree falls and nothing is there except for the tree and nothingness, no. If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes. If the tree, in any state of it's existance has ever been observed (according to generally accepted theories) then yes it makes a sound. If the tree falls in outr space it makes a sound but nobody can hear it scream.
Agreed, but the tree in question is in the woods not the vacume of space.
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Q: If a tree falls in the woods and there is no-one there to hear it does it make a sound?
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It depends. If the tree falls and nothing is there except for the tree and nothingness, no. If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes. If the tree, in any state of it's existance has ever been observed (according to generally accepted theories) then yes it makes a sound. If the tree falls in outr space it makes a sound but nobody can hear it scream.
Agreed, but the tree in question is in the woods not the vacume of space.
"If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes."
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Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
Observation effect. We create by noticing. It actually happens with light from far far away bending around large gravitational masses. Our observations decide whether the light behaves as a wave or a particle millions of ears ago.
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It depends. If the tree falls and nothing is there except for the tree and nothingness, no. If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes. If the tree, in any state of it's existance has ever been observed (according to generally accepted theories) then yes it makes a sound. If the tree falls in outr space it makes a sound but nobody can hear it scream.
Agreed, but the tree in question is in the woods not the vacume of space.
"If there is more than just the tree in existance, ie the forest, yes."
If you want to get technical if a tree was in either the vacume of space or in a realm of utter nothingness, save the tree in question, then the tree wouldn't be able to "fall".
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If you want to get technical if a tree was in either the vacume of space or in a realm of utter nothingness, save the tree in question, then the tree wouldn't be able to "fall".
That depends on what your definition of "is" is.
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Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
Observation effect. We create by noticing. It actually happens with light from far far away bending around large gravitational masses. Our observations decide whether the light behaves as a wave or a particle millions of ears ago.
I see you are of the classical pre reason obsurdity scool wich measures time in ears and distance in noses.
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The light's going to be here either way tampered with by our existence or not. So it's moot.
Just cuz' we don't hear something doesn't mean there wasn't something to be heard.
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Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
It's been argued by perception theorists that our auditory processing system (ears-cochlea-auditory nerve-auditory processing centers in the temporal lobes) do create the resulting sonic experience (sound).
Outside your body, a tree falls and all that happens is the resulting compression and rarefaction of air/water molecules. Inside your body, those comrpessions and rarefactions are converted into sound.
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
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Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
It's been argued by perception theorists that our auditory processing system (ears-cochlea-auditory nerve-auditory processing centers in the temporal lobes) do create the resulting sonic experience (sound).
Outside your body, a tree falls and all that happens is the resulting compression and rarefaction of air/water molecules. Inside your body, those comrpessions and rarefactions are converted into sound.
Eh. Fine. Our ears don't create sound-waves.
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Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
Observation effect. We create by noticing. It actually happens with light from far far away bending around large gravitational masses. Our observations decide whether the light behaves as a wave or a particle millions of ears ago.
I see you are of the classical pre reason obsurdity scool wich measures time in ears and distance in noses.
No, I read about it in a book and they had a very good reason for why it wasn't a stupid theory. Which I have cleverly forgotton.
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
In my original post you'll see that it was a simple question with a simple answer. The answer is "yes". People can argue till they turn blue, but at the end of the day, the answer is "yes".
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
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Our ears don't create sound Uschi.
Observation effect. We create by noticing. It actually happens with light from far far away bending around large gravitational masses. Our observations decide whether the light behaves as a wave or a particle millions of ears ago.
I see you are of the classical pre reason obsurdity scool wich measures time in ears and distance in noses.
No, I read about it in a book and they had a very good reason for why it wasn't a stupid theory. Which I have cleverly forgotton.
Acctually I was just making a joke revolving aroung your typo.
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Okay, look. this is all good and fun, but it has nothing to do with a man sodomizing a dog!
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
I can see the thirst for knowledge is one of your main concerns... 
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
In my original post you'll see that it was a simple question with a simple answer. The answer is "yes". People can argue till they turn blue, but at the end of the day, the answer is "yes".
Sadly, WBAM, it is not a simple question with a simple answer.
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
I can see the thirst for knowledge is one of your main concerns...
Don't me! I never said that the question was unimportant. I implied that nerds have a tendency to overanalyze a problem, thus creating a completely different (and often unanswerable) question.
It is as important to exclude all possible factors outside the realm of a stated problem as it is to include all possibilities within. Or, to put it another way, in THE QUEST FOR KNOWLEDGE it is important to recognize the question at hand.
But nerds, with their complicated ways, tend to forget this fact. Simplification without oversimplification is step one.
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it's in a fuckin' forest, people!
leave it to nerds to make a problem more complicated than it already is.
In my original post you'll see that it was a simple question with a simple answer. The answer is "yes". People can argue till they turn blue, but at the end of the day, the answer is "yes".
Sadly, WBAM, it is not a simple question with a simple answer.
Please re-read the original post in this thread.
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The tree falling does not make a sound. It produces waves of rarefaction and compression of air molecules.
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The three falling does not make a sound. It produces waves of rarefaction and compression of air molecules.
Please re-read the original post in this thread.
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The tree falling does not make a sound. It produces waves of rarefaction and compression of air molecules.
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The tree falling does not make a sound. It produces waves of rarefaction and compression of air molecules.
What's sound?
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It's the result of a series of processes starting with the creation of the compression and rarefaction of molecules in the transmitting environment. The compression and rarefaction are converted within the ear to neural activity via the cochlea and transmitted to the auditory processing sites within the brain.
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So is it sound before or after the ear part?
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So is it sound before or after the ear part?
For the answer to this please read the original post in this thread.
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No seriously, is it before or after the ear part?
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No seriously, is it before or after the ear part?
According to the dictionary:
# Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.
# Transmitted vibrations of any frequency.
Before the ear as was made clear in the first post. You've all just caused your selved undo stress by not accepting it.
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So is it sound before or after the ear part?
It is sound IN YOUR HEAD.
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So is it sound before or after the ear part?
It is sound IN YOUR HEAD.
Not according to the dictionary.
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