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Normally I wouldn't say this, but, you sir, are being foolish!

You pay taxes, these taxes go to pay for your military and stuff. I seriously doubt you have any say in what the US military does, and yet you pay for it anyway!

And yes, it IS the same thing



Acctually I DO (in the same manner that I mentioned before through government and my elected officials) have a say in what my military does. The Legislature (my elected officials) had to vote to aprove going to war requested by teh commander in chief (whome I also have a say in every four years) That same electd official has to get his military budget approved by my representitives. So the government controlls the military and i elect teh government. Should the government have the same controll over decisions you make in regards to your health?

Now next time perhaps you should issue a direct challenge to my assertion rather than just insult me, calling me foolish or suggesting that I don't know what I'm talking about, because it makes you look all the more foolish when your claim turns out to be false. You could do what J and W, did and provide a direct challenge to what I said, wich i will now address.

When I made my blanket statement i was wrong to a degree, in that I was thinking about rights not specifically sited in the constitution. I think the right to councel is an exception because it's protecting you from having done to you by others or by the government. You're presumed innocent at the time of recieving council so the government has to see that you are protected before acting against you. The government is choosing to act against you so they have to incure the costs in doing so and one of those costs is you being represented. I have needed a lawer before, but not because i was being preosecuted, but to protect my own intrests, but since the government wasn't acting against me didn't have the right to a lawer so I had to pay him myself. If you aren't being prossecuted or if there the government isn't seeking to prosecute you, you don't get a free lawer.

In regards to health care it's a personal coice.. What level of health care should you be guarrenteed? Do the rich have the "right" to the quality of healthcare they currently recieve? because with socialized medicine the quality of healthcare suffers and hence the rich will be denied the level of healthcare they currently recieve, or should everyone recieve the same level of healthcare that the richest citizens currently recieve? What if I don't like or agree with modern conventional theories of healthcare. What if I would prefer to go to a holistic healer or a D.O. or an accupuncturist, or a shamaan or faith healer for that matter do i not have the right to recieve the specific type of healthcare I prefer or should all those things be subsidized by the government and paid for by you?

Highlights from the above post for the attention challenged among us.

Acctually I DO ... have a say in what my military does.

the government controlls the military and i elect teh government. Should the government have the same controll over decisions you make in regards to your health?

I think the right to councel is an exception because it's protecting you from having done to you by others or by the government.

What level of health care should you be guarrenteed?

What if I don't like or agree with modern conventional theories of healthcare ... do i not have the right to recieve the specific type of healthcare I prefer or should all those things be subsidized by the government and paid for by you?



What I MEANT was that you have no direct influence on how your tax money is allocated.

Health care is paid with tax money, taxes are a civic duty, not a right and not a privilege.

And obviously, I did not mean to offend you!

Last edited by the G-man; 2005-03-22 2:01 PM.


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