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This fucking thread gets highlighted on Front Page.......and not my Green Lantern thread.......fucking rob and his new goon stupid doog....... 
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If I may show my bias a little before I go. It really bothers me how it seems whenever I have a discussion with evolutionists they alwayse seem to ASSUME that educated people believe in Evolution while the uneduacted don't and they seldom have to "prove" anything to me, because if i was intellegent I'd believe as they do. Now if you all will excuse me i have to go re-read "The Emporers New Cloths".
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And I know many Ph. D. scientists who believe in both Darwinian evolution and God. I have run into many religious scientists.
What bothers me is that so many assume that Darwinian evolution contradicts any kind of "God as creator" opinoins.
What's so offensive or wrong about the idea that God put the universe in motion and that science is Humanity's attempt to figure out what God was up to, how his processes operate?
I've run into alot of Ph. D. scientists who reject Darwinism , so what's your point? My point from the beginning is that when dealing with theories you can't turn to the Ph.D.s as the final authority because they haven't come up with a final conclusion. There are Ph.D.s who believe in Darwinism and there are those who regect it so we can't rest on "because the Ph.D.s say so" I'll also not that you've cleverly made the logic jump of equating darwinism with science in general and the rejection of one to the rejection of the other, shame, shame. I reject Darwinism and at teh same time consider science (I know research scientists who attend my church and worship along side me and are elders in the church as well) a very nobel cause. You ask what's offensive and I can reject darwinsism and at the same time assert that "God put the universe in motion and that science is Humanity's attempt to figure out what God was up to, how his processes operate."
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this shows your ignorance thats apples an oranges. a lawyer can give you advice on wehter something is legal or not a scientist is developing theories. there are scientists who do not believe in evolution, but i guess as with all you arguments you cant acknowledge that. but your ignorance is legendary.
Why don't you just stick to calling me a queer and making jokes. It's clearly what you're good at.
Wow, that was much better than responding to his legitimate challenge.
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You conviniently left out the rest of my post, because it addresses exactly this point, if we shouldn't listen to Pariah , then we sure as hell shouldn't listen to you.
Then don't.
I'm not here trying to sway anybody's opinion about anything.
But, being an open minded tollerant person I reject the notion of ignorring both of you (as the rest of the post you quoted denotes) and choose instead to listen to both sides of an argument and make up my mid from there.
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If I knew you didn't actually read what I said posts ago I would have said this much earlier:
You are a fucking arrogant fucking motherfucker fucking fuck.....
You are entitled to your opinion. As am I.
And I'm arrogant? You title a thread "flaw in evolution" and *I'M* arrogant? Dude, take care of your own playpen first.
 So it's arrogence now to even question or suggest a flaw in the Gospel according to Darwin? And I thought Southern Baptists were stubborn!
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This fucking thread gets highlighted on Front Page.......and not my Green Lantern thread.......fucking rob and his new goon stupid doog.......
and don't you forget who's in charge! bitch!
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This fucking thread gets highlighted on Front Page.......and not my Green Lantern thread.......fucking rob and his new goon stupid doog.......
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I think the thread title is misleading. I don't see any "flaws in evolution". I see flaws in the interpretation and application of archaelogical findings. There's a difference. This would be like pointing out the numerous historical inaccuracies of the Bible and then deducing that God can't exist.
Science, like everything else, is only as "correct" as the people applying it.
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I had some beers the other night with God......so he does exist I can prove it. 
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he didn't look so intelligent at the end of the night when he asked me to pull his finger and he shat himself.
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or whenver he saw a pretty waitress he kept pulling out his penis and asking them to give the son of God a kiss........that was a little embarassing.
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it was kind of funny though when we left and saw some cops outside the place and he kept asking me real loud if I smelled Bacon.
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This would be like pointing out the numerous historical inaccuracies of the Bible
Since the debate isn't about that I'll simply say that I reject this premise.
As far as this being "flaws in evolution" evolution is nothing more that a theory. As a theory it has no flaws. It is a valid THEORY. What this thread attemps to demonstrate are flaws in the attempt to prove this theory.
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I have a third leg.............but I never considered it a flaw......waka waka
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I guess there's somewhat ironic that a French guy said that.
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This would be like pointing out the numerous historical inaccuracies of the Bible and then deducing that God can't exist.
I challenge you to do just that. There are scientific concepts listed in the bible tht were otherwise unknown at the time of thier writing ('the earth is suspended on nothing,' 'he who dwells above the circle of the earth'...ect.) as well as historical figures who's existence archeology has only recently proven (Ponitias Pilot).
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This would be like pointing out the numerous historical inaccuracies of the Bible
Since the debate isn't about that I'll simply say that I reject this premise.
But its okay to point out the flaws in evolution?
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I think the thread title is misleading. I don't see any "flaws in evolution". I see flaws in the interpretation and application of archaelogical findings. There's a difference. This would be like pointing out the numerous historical inaccuracies of the Bible and then deducing that God can't exist.
Science, like everything else, is only as "correct" as the people applying it.
The archeological findings weren't the only things I listed (and I find that their bearing on the scietific community shows much flaw in current belief system). Still, noting those was to highlight the concordance with evolution's exhibition and how wrong scientists are for basing all of their theories on them. There's also the theories they were (still are) using to back up evolution listed as well.
P.S. I love the way you're trying to derail the subject into the credibility of theology, the technique is just brilliant.
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"God is a comedian playing to an audience to afraid to laugh."
I guess there's somewhat ironic that a French guy said that.
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I challenge you to do just that. There are scientific concepts listed in the bible tht were otherwise unknown at the time of thier writing ('the earth is suspended on nothing,' 'he who dwells above the circle of the earth'...ect.) as well as historical figures who's existence archeology has only recently proven (Ponitias Pilot).
No thanks, I fell into that trap once. Not worth wasting my time yet again.
I've come to understand that when discussing things like politics and religion, most people simply won't have their minds changed. That's why I generally ignore topics like these now.
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As far as this being "flaws in evolution" evolution is nothing more that a theory. As a theory it has no flaws. It is a valid THEORY. What this thread attemps to demonstrate are flaws in the attempt to prove this theory.
Then, as I said, the thread-title is misleading.
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This would be like pointing out the numerous historical inaccuracies of the Bible
Since the debate isn't about that I'll simply say that I reject this premise.
But its okay to point out the flaws in evolution?
Apperantly NOT among this gaggle of Zealots!
I'll gladly elaborate on teh existence of God or the historicle accuracy of the scriptures in other threads. i just didn't want to get too far off topic. So start a thread called "The flaws of Scripture" and i'll join that debate.
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As far as this being "flaws in evolution" evolution is nothing more that a theory. As a theory it has no flaws. It is a valid THEORY. What this thread attemps to demonstrate are flaws in the attempt to prove this theory.
Then, as I said, the thread-title is misleading.
Quite simply. Scientists have put so much faith and belief into these fossils, which have already been debunked, that they have become evolution--The very building blocks of the theory. And because these fossils don't work or resemble the way the theory is presented, there are flaws in the theory.
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As far as this being "flaws in evolution" evolution is nothing more that a theory. As a theory it has no flaws. It is a valid THEORY. What this thread attemps to demonstrate are flaws in the attempt to prove this theory.
Then, as I said, the thread-title is misleading.
Only if you want to assign motive and nit-pick semantics (I say with all due respect )
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I challenge you to do just that. There are scientific concepts listed in the bible tht were otherwise unknown at the time of thier writing ('the earth is suspended on nothing,' 'he who dwells above the circle of the earth'...ect.) as well as historical figures who's existence archeology has only recently proven (Ponitias Pilot).
No thanks, I fell into that trap once. Not worth wasting my time yet again.
I've come to understand that when discussing things like politics and religion, most people simply won't have their minds changed. That's why I generally ignore topics like these now.
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Can it bub, I only make the accusations here, I can't be arsed to defend them!
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"God is a comedian playing to an audience to afraid to laugh."
I guess there's somewhat ironic that a French guy said that.
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Only if you want to assign motive and nit-pick semantics (I say with all due respect )
Call it whatever you please. The thread isn't really about the "flaws in evolution". That's the kind of title that you see when someone wants to start a fight.
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Call it whatever you please. The thread isn't really about the "flaws in evolution". That's the kind of title that you see when someone wants to start a fight.
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Only if you want to assign motive and nit-pick semantics (I say with all due respect )
Call it whatever you please. The thread isn't really about the "flaws in evolution". That's the kind of title that you see when someone wants to start a fight.
True, but it's also shorter than. "Flaws in the arceological findings that attemt to prove the yet unproven theory of evolution wich solely as a theory has no inherant flaw, but has yet to clear some distict hurdles in the demonstration process"
Some people choose brevity over technicall perfection.
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Can it bub, I only make the accusations here, I can't be arsed to defend them!
I'm not accusing anyone. I don't think there's anything to accused over. It's not a big deal. Certainly nothing worth insulting me over.
This is a topic we've had so many times here, and nothing ever comes out of it. That's just the way it is.
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I think the biggest problem with the theory of evolution is that there still has been no real evidence suggesting the need for an animal or organism to become a different species entirely..how does that happen?
adaptation is a real and viewable fact..it is proveable and makes complete sense.
But just how does an organism evolve an eye? Does the eye evolve over time or as a whole piece of functioning tissue? What is the purpose of an eye that doesn't work (not having several key componenets)? Evolution doesn't seem advantageous in practive..while adaptation does...supposing that evolution is just a series of consecutive massive adaptations doesn't make sense..why does a bacteria need to evolve into a fish when it works fine as a bacteria...???
I don't know..it's complicated...but I see no reason for "evolution" to exist as a biological function other than adaptations that adjust to a currently existing species and allow it to adjust to a new environment or stress of an environment.
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I think Evolution is a big joke. It's stupid! I mean, how long are they going to let Triple H keep the title? Or are they gonna let Batista - who is crappy - win the title for a week until Triple H comes back from whatever vacation he's taking, then give it back to him. Two guys does not a successful franchise make! Even if Ric Flair - who should never wrestle again! - is the manager! GAH!!!
What? We're talking about the THEORY of Evolution??? Oh...never mind...
Guys, lighten up. Some of you believe in Creationism. Some of you believe in Evolution. Some of you put the two of them together in some way. Lighten up and stop shredding each other on personal levels. Let there be peace on Earth...even if we really can't see how it's tilted on its axis (no matter what PrincessElisa says).
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True, but it's also shorter than. "Flaws in the arceological findings that attemt to prove the yet unproven theory of evolution wich solely as a theory has no inherant flaw, but has yet to clear some distict hurdles in the demonstration process"
Some people choose brevity over technicall perfection.
Yes, that is shorter. However, I wasn't suggesting an alternate thread-title, just an acknowledgement of what the actual content of the inital post was. That way, perhaps there wouldn't have been so many pages wasted arguing over whether or not evolution could be "proven", or whether or not a theory could have a "flaw".
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I think the biggest problem with the theory of evolution is that there still has been no real evidence suggesting the need for an animal or organism to become a different species entirely..how does that happen?
adaptation is a real and viewable fact..it is proveable and makes complete sense.
Adaptation, essentially, is evolution. A kind of evolution, at least, along with speciation.
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This is a topic we've had so many times here, and nothing ever comes out of it. That's just the way it is.
Hey it's causing people to critically think Animals! To take what they've read and spin it around in their minds.
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That was my point...I don't understand why adaptation on it's own isn't enough...I don't see the need for a creature to switch species...
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