Whiny Yorick has put me off the series, but its the flippant/poignant thematic writing whcih annoyed me. Its the same sort of writing we see in Ex Machina. Its annoying.
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First Amongst Daves said:
Christian beliefs generally have him as a seducer of virtue (as an aside, I have an excellently researched nonfiction book called "The Devil: A Biography" which I recommend to people interested in the diabolic). Vertigo's Lucifer is not in the slightest bit interested in the vast majority of sentient beings.
This is a paradox. You can say that Carey set up an alternate universe, but he's clearly created a strong foundation out of Christian principle/doctrine.
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Lucifer wants to overthrow God.
Not in Vertigo. He set up a competitive existence.
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To do that while in hell, he had to seduce the earth-dwelling souls (technically, one could say that he wasn't interested in their lives even then).
Not in Vertigo. Wasn't interested.
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Carey may not have wanted this to be the case, but its a pillar he can't remove if he wants to keep everything else, especially if the very notion of "sin" still exists within his universe (and it does).
"Sin" has very little to do with Gaiman's or Carey's plots. Quite the opposite for Carey: Lucifer kills a large percentage of the population of Beijing in one story simaply as a means of dealing with a threat. And no consequence, only a few mild words from Michael. And then 15 issues or so later he destroys a realm with millions of souls just to honour a debt. No consequences, because by that stage God has quit being God.
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And this doesn't even begin to cover the fact that wanting to overthrow God carries the apparent implication of pursuing power. And that certain power is what governs God's creation, cuz'....Well....It is God. Anyway, to want that power, you'd be wanting power over all things--And that obviously includes humans.
And two of the Titans. after God's departure, Lucifer only sits on God's throne to mock Michael. He flippantly reliquishes it because he does not covet it. He has his own playground.
You haven't read the series, have you?
