Quote: thedoctor said: That pretty much still says that you desire "more than just a popcorn flick" as the way I originally posted indicated. This shows that you're obviously holding the Spider-Man franchise up to a higher standard.
It doesn't, and I'm not. As I already explained, the two films had different goals, and, in my mind, AvP came closer to reaching its goals than Spiderman did. Simple as that.
Quote: None of which were in AvP, which you liked. Once again a double standard.
Again, no. Saying I like story and plot doesn't mean I hate every movie that doesn't have much of one. To make a claim like "best comic book movie ever"(as many did with Spiderman or Spiderman 2), a plot is pretty crucial. I never made remotely as positive a statement about AvP. Infact, as I said in the old thread, if anything, most of the entertainment I derived from it was from the(possibly unintentional) hilarity of a lot of the buddy-buddy scenes involving the Predator.
It was a stupid movie. But fun stupid. That was the extent of my enjoyment.
Quote: Wrong. Teasers and trailers correspond to how the studio wants you to perceive the film. There have been many instances where I've been surprised by a film that wasn't the same as the way it was marketed. Your point here is weakened by your own statements later on
I think you misread my post. I wasn't making the general comment that trailers correspond to the movie. I was saying that this movie(AvP)'s trailers corresponded to its final product. Edited, not edited, it doesn't really matter. The studio aimed low and delivered low. That's probably why they ended up raking in nearly twice what it cost to make.
Quote: I contend that the fight scenes were crap. And the movie didn't accomplish all it was meant to. Obviously, Anderson tried to get you to sympathize with a few of the characters so that their deaths seemed more than just fodder for the Aliens, and he didn't. I didn't give a good goddamn about any of those characters. Not even Spud from Trainspotting.
I didn't think he tried to do that at all. Well, I mean, maybe a little, but not much, because the human characters were barely in it. The main attraction was, as the title suggested, the Alien/Predator fights.
Quote: I think Robo also admitted to never liking the Spider-Man comic book and being up Batman's arse. So that would be like Joe Mama going to a Yankee's game and actually saying something nice about the team.
I wasn't overly impressed by the old Crow comics I read, but I liked the first movie a lot. I've never read a Rocketeer comic and I liked that movie a good bit, too.
Clearly, to have made so much money, Spiderman's following has to extend beyond comic fans. It wouldn't have been nearly as successful if it was an esoteric film.
