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For someone like myself, who's never read the book, how is the movie? Would we enjoy it?
I have never read the book, and I really liked it. It has that dry sort of British humor (you know, Monty Python and Blackadder and all that), but it's a little jazzed up from the old movie I saw (my dad turned it off after the fish scene).
Marvin was the best character. I wanted to see more robot. I making a picture of that thing my new desktop.
I also found it amusing that half the cast of Love Actually was in this movie. I halfway expected Hugh Grant or Emma Tompson to pop in the movie somewhere.
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Marvin was the best character. I wanted to see more robot. I making a picture of that thing my new desktop.
Yeah, for some reason Marvin is always the most likeable character. My wife didn't really like the TV show, but Marvin always made her laugh everytime he was on the screen. There is just something attractive and hillarious about a clinically depressed robot.
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I just saw it. Most was tolerable, but the last fifteen minutes were a travesty.
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Mos was good Ford, gotta admit that.
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How's the TV-series from the 80's like?
I just got back from the movie. It was good, but I think I liked the BBC TV show better. It wans't a glitzy and the fx were cheezy, but it stayed truer to the humor and plot of the book. But, if you don't have a preconcieved notion of what "HH2G" should be like I think you will like it a lot.
My advice: watch the movie, read the book, then watch the 80's TV version.
I agree with the above post.
The only thing I would change is the order. I would watch the movie, watch the 80's TV version, THEN read the book.
Nothing beats the book.
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Mos was good Ford, gotta admit that.
So was Alan Richman.
Also whoever that was who played Slartibartfast was really good as well.
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I just saw it. Most was tolerable, but the last fifteen minutes were a travesty.
After a good night's sleep, gotta say this post was true too.
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I only saw the movie. How does it end in the books? I felt the recreating and reanimating the Earth seemed out of place.
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It ends with the mice trying to buy Arthur's brain. It goes something like this.
Arthur: "You can't have my brain, I'd miss it."
Mice: "It's ok we'll give you a new electronic one, a simple one should suffice"
Arthur: "a simple one?"
Zaphod: "We'd program it to say "What?" and "where's the tea?" Who would notice the differance?"
Arthur: "I would!"
Zaphod: "No you wouldn't, you'd be programed not too."
Then Arthur smacks the mice.
They run to get back to the Heart of Gold and run into two cops who corner them and keep shooting.
The cops are wearing self contained suits. After an exchange of words the cops start fireing again and suddenly thier heads explode.
The crew move onto the surface the regroup with Marvin who is standing net to the cop's ship, which is smoldering from blowing up like the cops.
They asked Marvin what happened and Marvin told them he just wanted somebody to talk to so he plugged himself into the cops ship.
After talking to Marvin the cop's ship commits suicide.
They make way back to the heart of gold and escape.
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None of that reanimation stuff happens in The Hitchhiker's novel. Arthur Dent does witness the Earth 2 project being built and it is explained that the mice requested it, but Arthur never actually goes down to the new planet. The movie scene that takes place in Arthur's rebuilt home actually takes place inside a Magrathean waiting room in the book. Plus (and this is the really big difference) in the book the mice, having found Arthur's brain, an organic remnant from their doomed Earth computer, decide to cancel their request for a second planet.
After that, the book has an entire sequence that was left out of the movie involving two non-Vogon police officers. The Hitchhiker's escape but through no action of their own. It's later revealed that it was Marvin who saved the day, though remotely (he stays on the planet surface in the book) and not on purpose. The Hitchhikers leave Magrathea in The Heart of Gold and head to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe for a bite to eat.
Now go read the book. Seriously.
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Now come on out or we will be forced to blow up the planet. And a few others we saw on the way here.
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Those cops were great. One of my most favorite parts of the entire series.
I can't believe they replaced them with crap they did.
Everything else was going so well.
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Another joke I missed was....
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I wanted to see Ford convince the construction dude to lay in front of the bulldozer, but nooooooooooo!
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Right. So the movie is way off the books, but I still really liked it. It kept basically the same feel but I still didn't know everything before it happened. I like Trillian's character, Mos Def as Ford was spot on, Arthur was perfect, Zaphod was perfect - I hated the shit outta him... Marvin... yes.
I thought the differances made the movie interesting. It makes it a whole different telling of the same story. I enjoyed the whole thing thoroughly.
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They didn't need to tack on the love story.
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True. That was dumb. However, this is Hollywood and "nobody" wants to see a movie without a boy and a girl falling in love.  I can look past it.
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Was it just me or did anyone else think that Alan Richman was playing Zaphod as an intergalactic version of "Dubya." I thought his performance was perfect, esp. when you consider the entry in "Resturant" were they explain what the real function of a president is suppose to be. By that definition I think Zaphod and Dubya are both perfect for the job.
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I was underwhelmed.
Not because they changed some of the stuff from the books(you have to expect that), but because it felt like the changes they made were done so because the movie people didn't think an audience would be smart enough to get it the way it was. A lot of the sophisticated British humor that Adams was so famous for was watered down, I guess to make it more "accessible". I laughed more from being reminded of scenes in the books than from actually finding the movie itself funny.
I also agree that the love angle was way too forced(a ten minute conversation and he knows she's "the one"?).
Shame, too, because I thought Sam Rockwell and Mos Def were great, and I did like the way they handled the book.
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Was it just me or did anyone else think that Alan Richman was playing Zaphod as an intergalactic version of "Dubya."
It was Sam Rockwell(Alan Rickman was the voice of Marvin), and I did kind of get that feeling a couple of times in the movie.
That being said, that's pretty much what the character was originally created as in the first place(a braindead president).
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I think the casting was great.
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Slartibartfast especially stood out.
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Right. So the movie is way off the books, but I still really liked it. It kept basically the same feel but I still didn't know everything before it happened. I like Trillian's character, Mos Def as Ford was spot on, Arthur was perfect, Zaphod was perfect - I hated the shit outta him... Marvin... yes.
I thought the differances made the movie interesting. It makes it a whole different telling of the same story. I enjoyed the whole thing thoroughly.
That's pretty much how I felt. My only real complaint is that they glossed over some things that, as one who has read the books I knew, but people like my girlfriend who haven't were a little perplexed by. Mostly things like "Why is it so important to have a towel?", which is emphasized verbally by Ford, but the exact reason(s) why it's "vital" are never clearly demonstrated in the movie.
And there were some flat bits, but all-in-all, I thought it was pretty cool. I'll definitely get the DVD when it comes out. Here's hoping they make a director's cut with a few extra scenes to flesh out some of the glossed-over bits.
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One little tidbit I adored:
The sunglasses. I forget what the're called, but Zaphod wears the danger shades that are clear when safe and opaque when in trouble.
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How's the TV-series from the 80's like?
I just got back from the movie. It was good, but I think I liked the BBC TV show better. It wans't a glitzy and the fx were cheezy, but it stayed truer to the humor and plot of the book. But, if you don't have a preconcieved notion of what "HH2G" should be like I think you will like it a lot.
My advice: watch the movie, read the book, then watch the 80's TV version.
Thanks!
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They didn't need to tack on the love story.
Or they could have at least slowed that down. No need for him to get the girl until the 3rd or 4th movie.
If they HAD to do it, they could have at least kept us in suspense.
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Thanks for gently pointing this mistake out and not calling me a jackass or anything. Honestly, I'm always bad with the names of actors in movies. I'm much better with faces than remembering names. For instance, I've liked Rockwell (and come to think of it Alan Rickman) in just about every movie he has been in, esp. "Confessions of a dangerous Mind," but I never can remember his name.
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That being said, that's pretty much what the character was originally created as in the first place(a braindead president).
My point exactly!
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Rockwell's talking and movement was a lot like what he did in Galaxy Quest too. But yeah, I saw the Dubya-ness, and it was cute.
I was thinking that there wasn't any love story in the book, and I could kind of tell they added that to the new movie. I can't say if I like the 'add a love story for the sake of adding a love story' concept or not, but at least they did it fairly smoothly.
Any else seen Love Actually? Seriously, half of cast is in this movie. I can't get over 'The Porn Star' as Arthur. Heh. That's so cute.
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The girl I saw it with kept commenting on that as well. But, then, I guess seeing that guy naked would be a bit traumatizing...
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Was it just me or did anyone else think that Alan Richman was playing Zaphod as an intergalactic version of "Dubya."
It was Sam Rockwell(Alan Rickman was the voice of Marvin), and I did kind of get that feeling a couple of times in the movie.
That being said, that's pretty much what the character was originally created as in the first place(a braindead president).
I watched a tv special about the making of it tonight & Rockwell says he based Zaphod on Clinton!
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M-O-O-N that spells braindead.
Favorite line ever. Ever since the miniseries came out, I've used that for the most retarded reasons.
"M-O-O-N... that spells _______"
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Peril-sensitive sunglasses. Man, I loved it. I think I expected the worst, and was pleasantly surprised that even a little of the Brit-wit survived. True, alot of the patented Adams philosophy was glossed over. But, Hitchhiker's is a subject material that has got to be difficult to compress down into two hours. Something had to give. As for the love story, it didn't phase me in the least. I mean, it's damn near exactly as it was in the book: Arthur meets Trillian at a party, Zaphod sweeps her away, Arthur has pining moments of wishing he was as "cool" (READ: American) as Zaphod, and not trapped in the 'British mold' (akin to Cleese's stuff in A Fish Called Wanda). Yes, rushing it for them to get together was, albeit, very much Hollywood (especially as they never actually hooked up in the books). But, given the idea that there may have never been another movie (and might not be), it's understandable that they would go ahead and do that. And, really, if that's all they altered just to make it "appeasing" to an American audience, then, I'm fine with that. Douglas Adam's himself has always, always changed and altered Hitchhikers to fit into whatever medium he was going for, whether it was the book, radio, television, computer game, etc. So, any real alterations are a given with this franchise. And, in the end, it was still the Hitchhiker's I love. Cameo tidbits: -The voice of The Book in the movie, was the same guy from the radio show and the television series (Simon Jones, I think?) -The hologram of the Magrathean announcer was the same actor that portrayed Arthur in the radio series and the television show (and that hologram was filmed in 3-D...get some 3-D glasses and try it. I'm serious. It's great.) -The theme music was still the same theme from previous incarnations. -The original Marvin robot from the television series was in the Vogon waiting room with all the other aliens. -Douglas Adam's face can be seen as a star system in the planet factory. His full visage can be seen as the final 'improbability form' when they launch off for the Restaurant at the End of the Universe in the last frame of the movie. It's quick, but, it's him. -Douglas Adam's wife and daughter are sitting at the table behind Ford and Arthur in the pub scene. All in all, damn excellent. Can't wait for some DVD extras. BTW, best new line: ARTHUR: "Ford...I'm a sofa..." FORD: "I know how you feel..." 
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-The voice of The Book in the movie, was the same guy from the radio show and the television series (Simon Jones, I think?)
Nope!
In the tv series it was Peter Jones (who I think is dead)
in the film its Stephen Fry
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Dude I swear that was a dead-on dubya impression, but if that's what he said, that's what he said.
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