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I've been lurking on the boards for awhile, but I saw Sin City yesterday and wanted to chime in...
I snuck out of work early to see it with a friend yesterday. She doesn't read comics and she still liked it - she loved Marv. I thought that the inner dialogue that you read in the book sounded a little stilted on screen, but that didn't take away from the enjoyment of the picture. I've never seen a comic book movie that stayed so true to the origin material. Everything from the dialogue to the way people were standing/positoned in scenes was exactly like it was in Miller's originals. I loves me some Clive, and Dwight is one of my faves, but I was really surprised at how good Mickey Rourke was as Marv - he totally bulked up and the make up/profile of him - everything was fantastic. The violence was as extreme as it is in the books, but bc. it was in b&w and so over the top I don't see how people could really get squeamish about it. It reminded me of the Kill Bill Vol. I kind of violence...
I noticed really minor details in the movie too - like the earrings that Gail, Becky and Miho wore were exactly the ones they had in the book - chick details, but I still like that they were there. Miho's fight scenes were staged exactly like they were in the comics - my friend and I sat behind three fan boys who cheered out loud while she sliced and diced Jackie boy and co. I don't know the girl who played Miho, but I ended up really loving the character after this. Everyone did a great job with their roles - even Brittany Murphy was ok as Shellie, and I think she's blown half of hollywood to get where she is, so that's saying something...the chick form the Gilmore Girls who played Becky was really good too. Frodo gone evil - Elijah Wood didn't say a word and still creeped me out.
I only hope that Batman Begins is as true to the character as the Sin City movie was to its characters. I'm totally buying this when it comes out on DVD.
BTW - can anyone tell me which scene Tarantino directed? I couldn't tell.
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Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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I bet Frank Miller didn't have much to do with filmography. But he's prolly gonna get all the merits. 
Well, he was on set every day, constantly communicating with the actors and Rodriguez. Very few comic films can say that the creator had that level of involvement.
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BTW - can anyone tell me which scene Tarantino directed? I couldn't tell.
I've heard it's the scene with Dwight and Jackie Boy in the car, but I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know.
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I don't deny that, but ten to one he gets the credit for the special effects and such cuz' it's "Frank Miller's Sin City". He was prolly responsible for most of the script. Actual directing though? I doubt it.
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He'll get the credit for the look, because it is his look. As far as effects go, it's been pretty heavily publicized that Rodriguez went digital with the backgrounds and that it was his choice to stay true to the GNs in making the film, so anyone who misses that isn't paying attention and is not worth the time. Fuck 'em if they get it wrong.
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so anyone who misses that isn't paying attention and is not worth the time. Fuck 'em if they get it wrong.
Well said.
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in the credits rodriguez gets credit for directing or head of visual effects..some such..I just saw it and can't really add anything..most of the inner dialogue ended up sounding funny and it kind of rolled itself into the more amusing parts of the story..at the beginning it was hard to get used to, but after 10 minutes it was great....
Also who wa the josh hartnett character? It's been a few years atleast since I have read any of these...
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And guess what. NEITHER DO I!!!
I just got back from seeing the movie and I am pissed. This isn't Kevin Smith type pissed, I mean I am REALLY pissed. I have never wanted to walk out of the theater so bad in my fucking life--GodDAMN this movie sucked!! I could give less of a shit who gets the credit here cuz' this movie just sucked ass through and through. Rodriguez, Tarantino, and Miller should all be ashamed of themselves! I want my fucking nine dollars back dammit!!
Truth be told though....It was my own damn fault. I heard from you guys that this script remained loyal to the book, which means that it was actual Miller dialogue, which I hate. I didn't read Sin City for a reason, I should've refrained from watching this movie for the same reason. Miller. Can't. Right. He recycles the same stuff over and over and gets lucky when it actually fits. And the fact that he goes for shock value up and down and all around is added ingredient for fame.
Miller. I have never wanted to kick your ass so much as I want to now. Burn in hell or give me back my money and 3 hours.
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Someone didn't like this movie.
The review's right about the anti-Christian setiment though. That much you gotta admit. I still didn't really care about that because it's the same old tune from Miller that's just gotten too boring to complain about. Let the fucker be bitter.
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I tried to see it last night and it was sold out.
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Someone didn't like this movie.
Looks like they don't like Frank Miller's story, not necessarily the movie. I didn't notice anyone taking shots at the film production etc, just the characters and plot events.
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Miller. I have never wanted to kick your ass so much as I want to now. Burn in hell or give me back my money and 3 hours.
WAITwaitwait! You admit you don't like Miller's stuff, THEN go see the movie anyway, THEN get pissed that you didn't like it and want your money and time back? Pardon my french, but you're a dumbass! I don't like Miller = I don't watch the movie. Especially in the theater with those damn prices. FUCK, Pariah! Grow a brain about that! Be better than yourself!
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Looks like someones sleeping on the couch tonight.
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I heard from you guys that this script remained loyal to the book, which means that it was actual Miller dialogue, which I hate. I didn't read Sin City for a reason
why... the fuck would you see a movie which is entirely based off something you hate? even if you didn't hear from us how loyal it was, what did you expect??
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Miller. I have never wanted to kick your ass so much as I want to now. Burn in hell or give me back my money and 3 hours.
WAITwaitwait! You admit you don't like Miller's stuff, THEN go see the movie anyway, THEN get pissed that you didn't like it and want your money and time back? Pardon my french, but you're a dumbass! I don't like Miller = I don't watch the movie. Especially in the theater with those damn prices. FUCK, Pariah! Grow a brain about that! Be better than yourself!
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Miller. Can't. Right.
Thats going in my signature.
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watch out for his "it was supposed to be like that for irony" claim
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WAITwaitwait! You admit you don't like Miller's stuff, THEN go see the movie anyway, THEN get pissed that you didn't like it and want your money and time back? Pardon my french, but you're a dumbass! I don't like Miller = I don't watch the movie. Especially in the theater with those damn prices. FUCK, Pariah! Grow a brain about that! Be better than yourself!
I thought the cinematography would make up for any writing that I didn't care for and I also didn't expect it to be this heavy on the crap he pulls. I figured since it won a bunch of awards and acclaim that it wasn't like his usual stuff....Look, I admit I was wrong, K?
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I thought the cinematography would make up for any writing that I didn't care for and I also didn't expect it to be this heavy on the crap he pulls. I figured since it won a bunch of awards and acclaim that it wasn't like his usual stuff....Look, I admit I was wrong, K?
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But this film is faithful to the source material in a way I've never seen before.
The screen shots were filmed directly from the pages of the book...same angles, lighting, everything.
The dialouge was word for word from the comic...a few cuts here and there but only where necessary to keep the pace moving.
The casting was perfect. Just about every actor was faithful to the comic version of the character.
As far as being a movie on it's own merits...for those that might not be familiar with the comic...the acting/line delivery would seem to be stunted. Not the greatest performances you've ever seen by the actors involved. But, that's because the comic itself is a stylized version of the classic noir movies of the 40's and 50's. What works on a written page can come across as a little stilted when said out loud. With that in mind, I think the performances were great and, again, very true to the actual books.
^^^ that was in the first post, Pariah.
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in pariahs defense he was busy blowing g-man earlier this week.
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I thought the cinematography would make up for any writing that I didn't care for and I also didn't expect it to be this heavy on the crap he pulls. I figured since it won a bunch of awards and acclaim that it wasn't like his usual stuff....Look, I admit I was wrong, K?
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But this film is faithful to the source material in a way I've never seen before.
The screen shots were filmed directly from the pages of the book...same angles, lighting, everything.
The dialouge was word for word from the comic...a few cuts here and there but only where necessary to keep the pace moving.
The casting was perfect. Just about every actor was faithful to the comic version of the character.
As far as being a movie on it's own merits...for those that might not be familiar with the comic...the acting/line delivery would seem to be stunted. Not the greatest performances you've ever seen by the actors involved. But, that's because the comic itself is a stylized version of the classic noir movies of the 40's and 50's. What works on a written page can come across as a little stilted when said out loud. With that in mind, I think the performances were great and, again, very true to the actual books.
^^^ that was in the first post, Pariah.
Yeah, I acknowledged that, but like I said: I just went cuz' the effects looked cool and I figured whatever I didn't like, I could ignore. But I soon found out that they couldn't keep me from vomiting out my stomach.
Look, I guess I just expected way more action to satiate me, I was wrong. Duly acknowledged in my first post on the subject.
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Yeah, I acknowledged that, but like I said: I just went cuz' the effects looked cool and I figured whatever I didn't like, I could ignore. But I soon found out that they couldn't keep me from vomiting out my stomach.
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What you spreckin' bout' bsams?
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too late we saw you post before we edited! whats worse than a gay guy with a joker fetish? a gay guy with a joker fetish that spits!
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Miller. I have never wanted to kick your ass so much as I want to now. Burn in hell or give me back my money and 3 hours.
acknowledge this! you were being a dumbass! he owes you nothing! NOTHING! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
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in pariahs defense he was busy blowing g-man earlier this week.
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Yeah, I acknowledged that, but like I said: I just went cuz' the effects looked cool and I figured whatever I didn't like, I could ignore. But I soon found out that they couldn't keep me from vomiting out my stomach.
heh
HAW! This gets better by the second! I'm really enjoying this thread!
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How could you not atleast like the marv and hartigan parts?
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acknowledge this! you were being a dumbass! he owes you nothing! NOTHING! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
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Truth be told though....It was my own damn fault. I heard from you guys that this script remained loyal to the book, which means that it was actual Miller dialogue, which I hate.
As you can see, already acknowledged, but no way does he not owe me money. Sometimes I can handle bad, other times I can handle really bad, but this movie is infinitely more worse than any of em'!
I'll put it in words you can understand: To me, Miller didn't ruin his own film. He ruined Rodriguez' film!
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How could you not atleast like the marv and hartigan parts?
The entire script was bad. All of it. It all sucked.
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I'll put it in words you can understand: To me, Miller didn't ruin his own film. He ruined Rodriguez' film!
No, you're a retard. IT WAS TRUE TO FRANK MILLER. It was HIS movie produced by moviemakers! udnerstanb?
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MmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmNo. You see, Frank Miller can't draw for shit, no talent there, which is not the case with those filmmakers.
I suppose I was expecting too much. Trying to make Miller's stuff seem like gold.
Oh well. 
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And guess what. NEITHER DO I!!!
I just got back from seeing the movie and I am pissed. This isn't Kevin Smith type pissed, I mean I am REALLY pissed. I have never wanted to walk out of the theater so bad in my fucking life--GodDAMN this movie sucked!! I could give less of a shit who gets the credit here cuz' this movie just sucked ass through and through. Rodriguez, Tarantino, and Miller should all be ashamed of themselves! I want my fucking nine dollars back dammit!!
Truth be told though....It was my own damn fault. I heard from you guys that this script remained loyal to the book, which means that it was actual Miller dialogue, which I hate. I didn't read Sin City for a reason, I should've refrained from watching this movie for the same reason. Miller. Can't. Right. He recycles the same stuff over and over and gets lucky when it actually fits. And the fact that he goes for shock value up and down and all around is added ingredient for fame.
Miller. I have never wanted to kick your ass so much as I want to now. Burn in hell or give me back my money and 3 hours.
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This movie kicked ass! It was awesome! But since my parents don't give me attention, I have an idea. I'll trash the film since everyone is in agreement it was awesome. Then I will have a life vicariously through the people who interact with me based on my disagreement. It's sad, but it was the lot I was cast.
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